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Today I passed the 3,000 members mark in my AGLOCO network. As I write this post, I am sitting at 3,010 referrals. Considering I haven’t talked about AGLOCO in nearly a month and my referrals still increase by over 1,000, that’s not too bad. However, the numbers could have been better.

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If you look at my referral chart, you’ll see I signed up over 400 people on the front line, and those 400 went out to sign up 2,600. That sounds great until you look at a network like McCall’s. He signed up just 73 people directly but those 73 went on to sign up 9,934 people! That should tell you that you don’t need to sign up a lot of people to build a big network. Get just a few hotshots in there and watch out.

With my wider front line, I should be able to overtake McCall, and I still may. McCall’s advantage was he concentrated his efforts on the 20% of the 80/20 rule, where I just signed up anyone and everyone. By focusing his efforts on signing up people who wants to build the network, McCall has developed a huge down line without having to sign up a ton of people on the front line. However, because I have way more people on my front line, my network has the potential to be bigger.

Another thing I realized is many people are waiting for the Viewbar to become available before they start signing people up. I think this is a mistake. Personally, I rather have AGLOCO delay the Viewbar even longer because right now, I have very little competition. Once the Viewbar comes out, I’ll be up against everyone and their dog. I’m laying the foundation to build a huge front line so when the Viewbar is released, I can just sit back and enjoy the show. If you’re serious about building AGLOCO, then NOW is the time to sign up those referrals.

How To Sign People Up

I’m going to reveal some of my referral ideas from the old AllAdvantage days. As far as I can tell, nobody has written anything about the methods I’m going to talk about. They are divided between no cost and cost. Everyone can do the no cost methods and some may want to try some of cost methods. This should help you in your quest for more referrals.

This Is An Easy Sell

Many people are making AGLOCO way more complex than it really is. This is an easy sell. You should be able to convert better than 50% of people you talk to. Just keep the following in mind; it cost you nothing in time or money and you make money. If the person you’re talking can’t grasp that concept, then you’re talking to the wrong person. Move on to the next.

When someone asks what it is, the only thing you need to say is, “AGLOCO offers a toolbar that display advertising. If you run the toolbar, they will give you a share of the ad money. They also pay you if you refer other people to use the toolbar.” That in a nutshell, is what AGLOCO is. If the person cannot understand that, there no use going any further. Take the advice of McCall - go after the 20%. Show the other 80% what it is, but don’t spend too much time with them.

No Cost Referral Methods

A lot of AGLOCO sites has talked about no cost referral methods so I won’t spend too much time on it. Basically, they include telling your friends by phone or email, or setting up a blog or MySpace page. The personal email is very effective. McCall displayed a nice referral email used by one of his referrals. You may want to use it as a template for your email.

Hey Cindy,

This note is mainly to offer you a chance to help build AGLOCO – it is a Member-owned Internet community.

Here is why I would like you to help. First – it is free. Second - it is quick and easy to join. Third – AGLOCO’s purpose is to get its members their share of the money generated on the Internet (i.e. you make money). And lastly – if you help build the AGLOCO network you can make much more.

Here is a link to sign up (it automatically records me as referring you with my ID BBBK0695) www.agloco.com/r/bbbk0695

AGLOCO works with a toolbar type software called a Viewbar. Privacy is very strict so no spyware, popups or spam.

As to how much money you can make, there is a study which says the average user should get $5 to $15 a month. (But less at the beginning.) Click here to read the report. http://simmonsreport.spaces.live.com

How much can you make helping to build the network? The Simmons Report predicts $30 per referral. I have 200, but a friend of mine RZ McCall has over 8,000. He has a great blog site http://mccallsnotes.spaces.live.com.

AGLOCO is in their beta phase which is the best time to help them build out the network. So please join now and help build the network. Have questions? Their website has all the details so go there www.agloco.com/r/bbbk0695 or ask me.

Go Girl,

Julie

BTW - I will have more to say about the Simmon’s Report in a future post. There are pieces of it I am going to take apart.

The PPC Landing Page

Many people have set up blogs or landing pages for AGLOCO. However, like most new sites, getting traffic to it is a problem. This is where Pay Per Click advertising comes in. You send traffic to the landing page with Google Adwords or other PPC search engines, with the hopes that the person clicking the ad will sign up.

Let’s say I bid 25 cents per click and get a 25% conversion rate (1 in 4 sign up). That means it will cost me $1 to sign up a new referral. Can I make money on that? During my AllAdvantage day, I worked out that I made about 30 to 50 cents per month off each referral. If AGLOCO is able to produce the same results, it’ll take me two to four months to break even. After that, it’s pure profit. That’s not a bad deal. How many businesses can break even in two to four months?

I am setting up an AGLOCO landing page and will begin PPC advertising soon. I plan to spend $2,000 on the promotion. I believe in the concept and I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is. Of course, I will reveal the results of the promotion for all to see - much like the way I recap my monthly blog earnings.

Some will say spending money on this is stupid but I don’t see it that way. If AGLOCO fails, I’m out a few dinners – no bid deal. If they hit big, I’ll be among their biggest referrers. I’m willing to risk some money on that. Many people thought David Cheriton was crazy for giving two Stanford PhD students $200,000 to start a search engine in 1998. That $200,000 became billions when Google went public. With AGLOCO, the downside is next to zero but the upside is unlimited.

The Opportunity Show

During the AllAdvantage days, I use to sign up tons of people by buying a table at local opportunity and networking events. As people came to my table, I explain to them what it was and sign them up right there and then. Then I gave them a floppy disk (remember those?) containing the AllAdvantage software to take home to install. My sign up rate was near 100% of the people I talked to because THIS IS AN EASY SELL! You surf the web, you make money, it cost you nothing. How hard is that to sell?

If you can’t afford the cost of buying a table at the show, you can still get people via the back end. Make up some business cards that has the URL to your AGLOCO landing page and show up at the event and pass out cards. That’s what a networking event is for. Sarah got quite a few sign ups at the last SOHO event we went to. Networking and opportunity events are great places to get new referrals. People attending these events are already part of the 20% and will be a lot more open.

Now Is The Time To Build

As I’ve stated at the beginning of this post, now is the time to build your AGLOCO network. Don’t wait for the Viewbar to come out before you start referring. You have very little competition right now. Use this time to sign people up. Waiting until the Viewbar is released may make it easier to sign people up but you may find the people you wanted to sign up has already signed up with someone else.

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    75 Comments »

    Comment by Andrew Chen
    2007-01-19 00:59:08
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    I am not good at asking friends to sign up things but I realy like to know how much monoey you can make on this. Are you going to disclose how much you are making on AGLOCO?

    Comment by Raghu
    2007-01-19 01:09:08
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    The catch is that it is still time away before he makes money out of it, and waiting till then might make it tougher to sign on more people !

     
    Comment by John Chow
    2007-01-19 11:02:39
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    Yes, I will be disclosing AGLOCO earnings as part of the monthly blog earnings recap.

     
    Comment by Subscribed to comments via email
    2007-02-03 12:15:51
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    It seems to be very difficult to get in touch with anyone in Agloco. Is it just me, or is it the “New World Order”. I wanted to get in touch with David Laurence “Top Gun”. His page that redirected was very interesting. Does anyone know how I can get in touch with him???

    Brian

     
     
    Comment by Paul
    2007-01-19 01:01:24
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    You may have gone easy on the sales pitch until now but looks like your upping your game with this post. I’m convinced and will sign up later today !

     
    Comment by Raghu
    2007-01-19 01:07:56
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    John,

    Thanks for the update. I am one of the 414 on your network. But the downstream contribution has been just 20 !

    The initial enthusiasm to get people on my network has somewhat died down in the last few weeks - will revive it though.

    Comment by Jane
    2007-01-22 00:11:43
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    This may b a common reaction with the Viewbar being held for so long.

     
     
    Comment by Matthew Jones
    2007-01-19 01:33:38
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    I seem to have been really unluky with my AGLOCO signups. I have 9 direct referrals but only 6 exteneded! how can 9 people put together be worse than me!

    Comment by My New Choice
    2007-01-19 19:18:11
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    9 is unlucky? I’ve got 1 with 0 extended. Everyone that I talk to is in that camp of questioning it and not understanding. The doubters seem to want to wait until there is proof in the pudding that they pay you or they think it is all spyware. Oh well. I keep trying but without any success.

     
     
    Comment by "ME"
    2007-01-19 03:09:58
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    congrats sir John Chow.

     
    Comment by Allen.H
    2007-01-19 03:20:41
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    Personally i don’t believe that most of the people will even use the Viewbar when it comes out. There are too many obstacles that will tell the average web user “don’t do this”. This may present me as pessimistic, or a lazy man, but I’d much rather put the time and effort in my assets, that are more leverage-able and bring me more revenue in the long run.

    Allen.H

    Comment by John Chow
    2007-01-19 10:58:22
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    While I like investing in assets as much as the next person, I don’t see how (short of options and futures) they are more leverage-able than AGLOCO. McCall sign up 73 people and now has a network of 10,000+. That’s pretty good leverage!

    As for most people not running the viewbar, I like to hear what you think are the “too many obstacles” that will tell the average user not to run it? The only one I can think of is, “Making $3 to $5 a month for running a viewbar is not worth my time. OK, it doesn’t cost me any time since I’m already online for more than five hours a month, but that’s beside the point!”

    Yes, some people do think that way. :)

    Comment by Allen.H
    2007-01-19 12:15:18
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    I wouldn’t want to be dependent on 10,000 people using, removing the viewbar, switching a PC and thinking “why should i install that viewbar with ads when i only made $10 from it?”, some will think it’s spyware. But hey, That’s just my view. I’m not saying those who don’t have anything better to do shouldn’t be doing this, or those who have a blog which just cracked Technorati’s 1000 rank and think “what the hell, i can market this and i’ve got nothing to lose”

    Allen.H

     
     
     
    2007-01-19 03:53:08
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    Good post John. What I did back in the AllAdvantage days was create little posters and pin them up in Grocery stores. Worked wonders.

    FT
    http://www.milliondollarjourney.com

     
    Comment by Carl
    2007-01-19 06:06:16
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    Who wants a toolbar? That’s what it is, at the end of the day… very very few people will install it and keep it.

    It’s a horrid scheme in my opinion. Own the Internet? annoy the internet more like it! :/

    Comment by Ian
    2007-01-19 08:45:02
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    Yeh, but you get paid for it so I can see why lots of people might want it!

     
    Comment by John Chow
    2007-01-19 10:08:21
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    Millions of people want and use a toolbar. And they install it without getting paid for it. If AGLOCO can match the number of Toolbar installed by Google, Alexa or even Stumble Upon, they’ll very do well.

     
    Comment by Jane
    2007-01-22 00:08:28
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    That’s what I first thought when I wasn’t to big on the net. I kinda hated toolbars and thought they were annoying. If I needed something I would just use my google homepage. But getting paid for something you do already is pretty enticing.

     
     
    Comment by Carl
    2007-01-19 06:12:50
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    Congrats John, you’ll be one of the 10 people who manage to make any money out of this ;)

     
    Comment by Theo
    2007-01-19 06:17:19
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    Personally I have seen to many ‘get rich quick” schemes in the past, and all of them revolved around in convincing people that their scheme is the one that truly works. The better the writeup, the better the results. But in the end, few people earn the big money. Like the LRB for instance.

    For me it will remain “if it looks to good to be true, it most likely isn’t”. If you want to earn big bugs, you will have to work for it.

    Theo


    http://www.siennacountach.net

    Comment by John Chow
    2007-01-19 10:32:21
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    In the end, few people earn the big money.

    Isn’t that the case with everything? How many WalMart employees make more than the WalMart CEO?

    However, you have to work for it to earn the big bucks is true. Most of AGLOCO (80%) will just run the tool bar and sign up nobody. And that’s fine. They’ll make $3 to $5 a month doing that, which is still in the black since it cost nothing.

    Another 19% will sign up some people and make some part time income from it.

    1% will be able to live off it.

    Comment by
    2007-01-23 10:12:24
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    Hi John,

    Congrats on ur swelling referrals.

    ur comment made me feel really good cos i stand at 0.8% of all referrers n i’m trying hard to better that!

    Good luck 2 u! :)

    Asheesh

     
     
     
    Comment by Matt
    2007-01-19 06:53:07
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    I seem to be really unlucky with my AGLOCO sign-ups. I only have 9 direct referals, but even worse is I only have 6 indirect! How can I have less indirect than direct!

    Comment by Jane
    2007-01-22 00:05:31
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    I would suggest looking at the 80/20 rule that John talks about in some of the AGLOCO posts…basically being intentional about who you refer…knowing they will be getting other sign-ups.

     
     
    Comment by Ryan
    2007-01-19 06:59:17
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    This is a no-brainer type of sell. You either want in or you don’t. I don’t, but that’s just me. :)

    I’m interested in seeing how this shakes out for you. Any updated on the viewbar? I imagine when that drops everyone will be out there trying to sign people up.

     
    Comment by Kiltak
    2007-01-19 07:17:33
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    The thing that worries me about agloco is the time it takes them to release the viewbar. If they don’t do it quick, the initial “excitement” factor will fade away for most of our referals and no one will be using the viewbar when it comes out.

    John: Lucky you.. 3% of your referals are there because of me ;)

    Comment by Ryan
    2007-01-19 08:22:09
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    Once money starts being earned there will be plenty of excitement, I assure you.

     
    Comment by Philomena Ojikutu
    2007-01-20 07:27:32
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    John, Yes, 3.62% of your referrals are also from my network. thank you mentor.

     
     
    Comment by Marc
    2007-01-19 07:59:54
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    Very impressive numbers. I played the AllAdvantage game last time around though and I think I’ll let this one pass :)

     
    Comment by Tim Schroeder
    2007-01-19 08:07:46
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    Wow, that’s awesome John.

    I’m sitting at just 41 referrals. I signed-up via your link so I’m in your downline. But my downline is not doing real well at the moment filling their own.

     
    Comment by Scott Howard
    2007-01-19 08:33:19
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    I signed up for it but when I sign in I can’t seem to get past the “change your password” page after I put my new password in the boxes. Any one else have this problem?

    Comment by John Chow
    2007-01-19 10:39:53
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    Try doing it on another browser or computer. If you still have problems, email help@agloco.com

     
     
    Comment by Nomar
    2007-01-19 08:41:14
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    That is a amazing number !! you are going to make lots of money if its working one day

     
    Comment by Payton
    2007-01-19 10:43:18
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    You could also take advantage of existing ad space if you run a popular blog or site to have something always visible. That way you don’t have to keep posting and seem like you’re whoring it too much ;)

    I run a celeb gossip site and made a blogad for it (on the right side) but really you could make any size banner and stick it on your site.

    Comment by Jane
    2007-01-22 00:01:13
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    I checked out your site and you incorporate the AGLOCO add well…it doesn’t stick out like a sore thumb, yet it’s catchy enough to make you read it.

     
     
    Comment by Matthew Berman
    2007-01-19 13:21:06
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    Hey John,

    I have about 120 signups…i’m closing in on you! (well not really). But thanks for getting me into agloco, i appreciate it.

    Also, the food post below is pretty gross, good job eating it.

    Matt

     
    Comment by Alex Becker
    2007-01-19 13:55:02
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    So far I have zero refferals

     
    Comment by StrangeProgress
    2007-01-19 14:55:32
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    While there may be some earning potential in this for those people which sign up a large number of referrals, it just doesn’t sit right with me personally. Feels like it would tarnish my sites reputations, promoting a pyramid scheme. Thats just my opinion of how it would be perceived by my visitors. But each to their own.

     
    Comment by
    2007-01-19 18:17:03
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    And Digg users think this site is too spammy?
    what’s wrong with them!

     
    Comment by Hannes Johnson Subscribed to comments via email
    2007-01-19 19:01:54
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    OK, fine, you’ve convinced me :) I just joined under you.

    I’ll give it a shot - I did earn some money back in the AllAdvantage days… and now I have more leverage, so it might work out.

     
    Comment by AglocoNews
    2007-01-19 19:12:30
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    I started an Agloco Member chain for fun.

    Come on by here http://www.agloconews.com/agloco-member-chain and add your member link.

    Lets see how many we can get.

     
    Comment by David Mackey
    2007-01-19 19:50:40
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    I joined, but I’m not building, simply because the same monetary potential doesn’t seem to be there. They’ve created a lot more safeguards to make it a viable business, and at the same time may have taken the life out of it.

     
    Comment by Jeff
    2007-01-19 21:07:53
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    Ya i signed up just to check it out but I still don’t know what concept this is based upon.

    Comment by Alex Becker
    2007-01-20 10:59:14
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    Its called targeted ads. They get money from advertisers and share it with you.

     
     
    2007-01-20 14:22:32
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    [...] I will soon reach 200 Agloco referrals. I now have 184 referrals: 152 direct referrals and 32 extended referrals. 2 of the Agloco Profis have 10,000+ (McCall) and 3,000+ (John Chow) referrals. However they built their network in different ways. McCall signed up only 73 direct referrals (0.73%) and their referrals made a very good job, while John Chow signed up 414 direct referrals (13.75%). Well, my direct / all ratio is quite different: 82.60%. [...]

     
    Comment by Zoltan
    2007-01-20 14:42:05
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    John, do you really think that 1% will be able to live off it?
    What could be the optimistic value of AGLOCO by then end of 2008? And the pessimistic one?

    Well… you rank on the top 0.05% of members with 3,000+ referrals, McCall ranks on the top 0.02% of members with 10,000+ referrals, I rank on the top 1.41% of members with 184 referrals. Anyone who is good in maths, how many members does AGLOCO have?

    Comment by John Chow
    2007-01-20 22:43:13
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    When I had 10,000 members (with 100 new members per day) in AllAdvantage, I got up to $5,000 in one month before the net starting caving in. Can you live off $5K a month?

    The top 1% will be a moving target. Right now it don’t take too many referrals to be there. However, as the network gets bigger, you’ll need to sign up more people to stay in the top 1%.

     
     
    Comment by Michael Kwan
    2007-01-20 15:23:38
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    I’m still having a lot of trouble signing people up, with only one referral thus far. While I (and most of you guys) can see the value in AGLOCO, the average web user will scoff at it as spyware, spam, or some other sort of scam. All those “bad people” out there have ruined for “honest” schemes like AGLOCO.

    By the way, John, in the comment form it asks for URI and not URL. You might want to fix that. Oh, and what cars are those in the new banner? They don’t look like American muscle at all. Koenigsegg?

    Comment by John Chow
    2007-01-20 22:46:00
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    Wordpress call it URI for some reason. I don’t know why. The cars are Pagani Zonda Fs.

     
     
    Comment by Paul Allen Design Subscribed to comments via email
    2007-01-20 15:59:13
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    How can I tastefully put a referral link on a ‘niche’ site like mine, paulallendesign.com, without detracting from it? The two would only seem to detract from each other. I’ve paid for many a weekend date way back when with my massive $100 AllAdvantage revenues. I just had a major flashback on the Jiggy Mouse, shaking all over my screen, with my Windows98 486DX Compaq running 24hrs a day. LOL.