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A Look At The Reverse Funnel System

written by John Chow on May 11, 2008

How one lazy bum made $176,697.50

You’ve no doubt seen ads for The Reverse Funnel System on this blog and countless other blogs. Reverse Funnel advertisers have been one of this blog’s most consistence advertisers, renewing their ads month after month. But what is The Reverse Funnel System and how does it work? With this review, I hope to shed some light on that question.

Systems Work, People Fail

The Reverse Funnel System was invented by Ty Coughlin, an ex-construction laborer who was drowning in the work-a-day life. We all know that story, right? However, thanks to The Reverse Funnel System, Ty no longer works. These days, he just sit around his house while looking at the money roll in from his Macbook Pro.

The Reverse Funnel System is a system to automate the money making process. It’s set up to guide a prospect through a “funnel” and come out the other side with a complete understand on how the system works. Basically, the system does the work so you don’t have to.

$50 Application Fee

To separate the tire kickers from the serious entrepreneurs, the system requires interested prospects to enter and confirm their email address. Then it sends them an email with a link to a page that ask them pay $50 to find out what the system is all about. Many people will be put off by this requirement right away and that’s the whole idea. By charging the $50 fee, the system ensure that only truly interested prospects see it.

If you decide The Reverse Funnel System isn’t for you after paying the $50 and looking over the materials, you can request a refund and go about your merry way. If you decide to join the system, then be prepare to spend some money advertising on various make money online blogs because that’s how the system works. You buy ads to generate traffic and that traffic makes you money. The more ads you buy, the more traffic you generate and the more money you make. That’s how it should work anyway.

What Am I Selling?

At this point, you’re all wondering what you’ll be selling. Unfortunately, the conditions of this review prevents me from stating what the product is. It’s going to cost you $50 to find out. I can tell you The Reverse Funnel System promote several products but they start you off with a very high end $3,000 offering that pays you $1,000 commission on a sale. The affiliate program is multi-tiered. If you refer someone to The Reverse Funnel System and they make a sale, you get $1,000 commission from that as well. Build a big enough network and you might be able join Ty on the beach with your own Macbook Pro.

This high commission rate helps to explain why I get so many Reverse Funnel System advertisers. All they have to do is make one sale and not only will that pay the full cost of a $500 ad, they’ll net $500 as well. A lot of people will write off The Reverse Funnel System as some kind of scam. However, it’s clearly making money for these advertisers. Otherwise, why would they continue to pay $500 every month to maintain their banner ads on this blog?

The one big downside I see with The Reverse Funnel System is you need to buy the $3,000 product yourself before you can participate in the system and refer other affiliates. While the product is a real product that’s been around for 20 years, there will be some people who won’t have a use for it.

If you decide to get involve with The Reverse Funnel System, then I recommend you have some cash available. You’ll need $50 for the application fee, $3,000 for the product and more money to buy advertising. The system generates its leads and income by having affiliates buy advertising on 1000′s of blogs. If you don’t have any money left after buying the product and paying the application fee, then making money from the system is going to be really hard. At least you can still enjoy the $3,000 product. :twisted:

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The 3000 dollar that you need to spend on the mysterious product is probably what makes this business going. I bet that the product actually costs 100$ and that's where the profit starts rolling in... :lol:

Man this sounds awesome! I'm not really up with all this new fangled computer stuff though - can I just post my credit card details here to sign up? I can put up a few cards if that will help! And can you send me the funnel via express post - I'll pay extra :roll:

Funny how "Ty" is supposed to be the super rich kind living in Hawaii.

But if you notice, all the registration and such for the Reverse Funnel System points back to someone living in Seattle.

By the way, "Ty's" Hawaiian beachhouse looks like a crappy condo in a bad part of Hawaii.

I will tell you guys what this "Reverse Funnel System" is. It's just an affiliate system that puts a new spin on the old "envelope stuffing" scam of the 1980's. In this case Ty get's you to send him $3,000, then he just tells you "do what I did to make $3,000". And you become the next sucker in line trying to get people to send you $3,000.

There's no "product". That's why John would not give you any examples. Because there is none.

Ty is a genius. Great sytem for making money online. I wish I would have thought of that. Great name also.

Seems like a good deal but I don't think many people(including myself) are willing to drop $3,000 on a product and hope to make some cash back.

Not for me. And for some reason, I don't see this method lasting long.

John,

This revere funnel has interested me before - I just found out from this post that I'll cost you $3000+ - I know it will be expensive, but not this expensive :)

John, can you 'hint' a bit about things you mention as 'there will be some people who won’t have a use for it.' - that's a bit worrying to join such system with such amount of investment.

Thanks, John!

Despite everyone bashing every pyramid scheme/MLM out there, I guarantee that they (the people at the middle to top of the income range in virtually any MLM style business) make more money than most of the people writing comments on here.

Think about it, of course everyone that comments here will have a negative opinion...they haven't succeeded. Why would someone making lots of money from something like this be reading a blog about making money?

I don't mean to say go out and try every MLM you come across, but most people that comment here, comment to get links because they have not had any success with any system like this.

To be fair Mark, you did post here didn't you? You also left a link to your site, which you aren't required to do - but you did so anyway. The richest people in the world are still learning at all times. There is always more to learn, and new tricks you would otherwise be unaware of if you didn't read a blog like John's.

Your post is pretty ignorant. First of all, unless you are all up in these people's business, how do you know they're not making good/better money elsewhere?

Second, to say that they haven't succeeded because they're reading this blog is absolutely ridiculous. You can never have too many good tips & John posts about more than just how to make money online. On top of that, he gets some of the best companies advertising on here & some, if not all, read his blog. I guess they must not be successful either.

I admit to a small amount of ignorance and maybe a over generalization but there is a "most" in front of the word "people" for a reason. Do you really believe that the 25,000ish people that follow this blog are financially successful from this type of business?

I am not trying to bash people that comment here, by any means, (I still comment here :mrgreen: ) but I just doubt that the readers/commenters on this blog make more than an average income and that if you are in the middle to top of almost any MLM you are making more than an average income.

Also I didn't say that everyone that reads this blog in not successful, I said that people that write negative comments on posts like this have not succeeded in MLM style businesses. I think there is a little ignorance on your part as well.

Wow, there is no way in hell I would even consider wasting my money on this. Reverse funnel is a scam, just like someone said above, "Only the Beach Bum makes the money".

Makes me want to start my own "System".....

C'mon Chow you know you can REFUSE scam reviews right? We all know you don't need the money that badly right? Keep some integrity in this blog its becoming just a big advertisement.

John:

I'm disappointed to see this on your blog ... one question that will answer all the criticism. Did you buy a membership?

Posting Scams? Come on John chow. This post is completely unnecessary...

:razz: RFS DOES WORK!
And, yes, it IS a direct sales based company whose compensation model does include network marketing.
I've been with RFS for months now, and the true POWER of the system (or in ANY business) is how it duplicates. It teaches the average joe how to market online and sell the travel package to make the commissions.
If you're an internet marketer looking at this system, compare it to your job or home business. Right now you work and get paid based on the time you put in. If you have employees, or in this case bring on and train other marketers, you also get paid on THEIR sales as well... Just like at my last sales job where my boss got paid a portion of my sales.
But check this out: If you're already a good marketer, and you bring on other good marketers... you're income EXPONENTIALLY goes up.
You make $1000 per personal sale, and $1000 per sale of your personally sponsored reps. If John IS working this system as hard as I am, I'm sure his results SMOKE mine.
Example: You personally make 5 sales in 1 month, and your (let's say 5) personal reps make 5 sales per month, thats: 5K + (5x5k) = 30k per month. I'm sure if John is a rep, he'll be at 100k per month very quickly (and I'm jealous of whoever his sponsor is! haha)

Adam Holland
RevolutionProfits.com
the TRUTH about the Reverse Funnel System

bottom line is that--its not easy to make money.
And after all this is what Internet marketing is all about..Just like informercials that you see on TV....
You need to have a good skill of writing--Take a look at Joel Comm and his partner--they are good copywriters, and knows how to convince and pursuade no matter how effective is their product.

So my suggestion is to read carefully before taking any action and do some research--you gotta spend some time doing these---

Personally I think it's good of John to post the review.

I don't think it's John's job to try to prevent people from making "bad decisions" even if this was a scam (which I don't know either way).

He simply posts the review, and since we're all fairly intelligent adults here I would assume we are smart enough to make our own decisions whether to "buy into" this type of system or not.

I've heard mixed messages about the Reverse Funnel System, reading John's post I think he has done a good job of bringing the full details to light. Regardless of what the product is he has probably cleared it up for a number of people who were maybe thinking of believing the hype from the sales pages..

I don't know, this whole Reversel Funnel nonsense just smells like a scam. I've been through enough MLM garbage to know that I'm not even going to consider investing $50 so I can find out what the $3,000 product is. Shounds like BS to me.

This program looks like an internet version of carlton sheets and those others on late night TV pitching their real estate wealth systems while sitting in Hawaii or some other exotic locale. I guess if this guy can get a couple of suckers a day to send him $3000 then I guess he could be making some outrageous dough. Carlton Sheets is probably jealous. A little surprised that John Chow would be on board with this, but I think the review is largely fair and I think John Chow knows his readers can read between the lines of what is a good program.

You make a good point. John was paid $500 for a review, which I think he did a fine job on. John reviews a lot of stuff that may not be for everyone. The bottom line is if you have money to invest in a new business opportunity this might be something that works for you, besides it only costs you $50 to find out and you can get that money back if you don't think you can make any sales.

I wouldn't blame on John chow. You should not attack John--but should write to the guy who invented.
I know he will have an automatic response. But you still can get him.

When you take on advertisers, it's like going into business with someone. Sure, you may have done no due-diligence because you trusted that person, or they came from a trusted source. But once you find out who they are, you do the right thing.

However here, John has embraced these unscrupulous methods, and even tries to sell them to us. Apparently there are no takers. And that';s because virtually everyone can see through this Ty fellow. All one has to do is go on the Internet and blog Ty, and you'll get a real quick picture of whether or not you want to do business with this guy.

It's hard for me to believe, with as intelligent a person Jon obviously is, that he did not know EXACTLY what Ty was all about. I'll bet that Ty is paying handsomely to advertise with John. And that's hard to get away from.

I started coming to this site because I saw a successful blogger, and I wanted to know how to be successful as well. But if this is the road to success he professes, then I'm going to find another mentor. Either that, or John should do the right thing and renounce this Ty fellow.

-zach

Hmm.... I think it's easy for John to trust this guy because if you noticed he's been advertising with John for a good couple months already whether it's the top banner, or the 125x125s. Once someone is your regular customer (maybe even one of the top ones), it's easy for you to trust them.

Give John a break, he's trying to go to Shanghai :)

Exactly.
You can't consider everyone that advertises on your site to be in "Business" with you.
Do you have Adsense on your blog? If you do, are you in business with every advertiser who's ad is shown through your adsense unit?

It was a review. Nowhere in it is John making people sign up. Whoever signs up & then feel like they wasted their money, well, that's their own fault. No one is holding guns to their heads making them do it.

Guess what people? Your Job is a pyramid scheme. At least according to the terms you are defining it by. People at the top make the most money, and people at the bottom help make that person money and get only a little compensation for their work.

What you are really trying to say is you think it is an illegal pyramid scheme. That by definition means there is no actual product and all you are doing is conning people into joining so that you build a bigger base and the money they pay into it goes to you. I'm sure you've seen those emails floating around that say "send $1 to each of the 5 people...put your name on the list...blah blah blah." that's definitely illegal and it doesn't work.

The reverse funnel system is just another MLM opportunity with high costs to join to deter people that aren't serious. Think about it, if you spent only $50 your risk isn't very high and so you might not take it too seriously and probably not do anything. But if you spend $3k to start a business you are going to be much more serious and work a lot harder to be successful.

I've written about this on my blog. I'm not affiliated with RFS but I am an IBO with Quixtar which is a legitimate business.

A lot of people don't even spend that kind of crazy cash to get where they are now. Just look at Ashley Qualls who started Whateverlife. If I remember correctly, she said she only spent a measly $8. The amount of press & whatnot she has/is getting is insane. And her site still makes a lot of money to this day.

wow..3050 maybe my lucky 4D numbers....

To expensive, can buy one second hand car here....Already hear this program 5 months ago and i dont think is there any short way to make fast money online...

This is a pyramid scheme, but who knows, maybe she works

For $3050 you could do some serious marketing --like get paid blog reviews and ads for your own blog/site instead of theirs-- and make honest money :roll:

I'm willing to bet that most visitors to this site have at least one good product --that they don't have to conceal-- to make money with. This thing is not needed...

Mr Chow,

THIS IS BAD FORM.

If you can prove to me with your own examples that this piece of sh*t works then I will buy it.

John, I just don't understand how you can endorse this system or this guy. I have done a lot of research, and Ty is not who he says he is. He's a marketeer, like so many before.

This system simply takes advantage of the gullible. And I understand you probably make gobs of cash from his advertising dollars. But I'm GOBSMACKED that you think this is a viable system! You are in effect endorsing taking advantage of people that don't know any better.

This guy is no better than Brian Campbell, who was recently outed by Chris Jacobson and myself on his $10,000 in 73 Days scheme. Which you also noted here.

Look, there's plenty of ways to make money on the Internet with ethical means. But these guys, simply make money off the few they can scrape from their email lists. They pretend to add value, but at an ungodly price.

My opinion,
-zach bass

I posted several links that expose Ty as fraud and cheat. But there must be a filter on comments that prevents them from being posted. Just do the research. There's are thousands of reports on this guy.

I implore John Chow, for the sake of his credibility, to drop this scam artist, and vow to scrutinize such advertisers with higher standards, into the future.

-zach bass

Hmm... At first I was like everyone else and didn't think this will work. However, judging by how much advertising the person who asked for the review did on various blogs and the length of time he's done it, I'd say that he's doing quite well :)

I'm not sure whether he's really just sitting on the beach all day with his laptop but I'm sure he's making good money!

It's not just one guy who has done the advertising. It's several guys who have bought into the system and are now trying to make money from it.

Yeah & he & the other guys are probably the only ones making serious dough with this.

just stick to PTC bux.to anyone :grin: these systems are just crap. and yes i believe that this is a paid review. :eek:

As already stated by JOhn chow you need money to participate on this one. I think that I will stick with free one. :lol:

Free is the way to go.
It is a lot easier to sell more products for a small amount than it is to sell even one or two for $3,000.
You would probably make more money though Market Leverage than RFS.

i'd stay with my blog and see how much I make from that before trying this system ...

The fact that they would not let you say what the product is in your review speaks volumes for how they feel about their product. If they think their product is so great and worth $3,000 then why would they try to hide it?!?!? SCAM ALERT!

Read some reviews of Global Resorts Network from people who bought in. They are overwhelmingly negative, which is why the RFS tries to hide their product.

Wow sounds really good, can't wait to get my hand on this one!

so based on the comments so far--this guy is wasting his money to advertise on this blog--however its easy money for John.
I doubt any of you reading this blog have tried this program.

I think those who have enough money to spend but yet have dreams to be millionare will try this product.

But if you do not have such high desire then you are like me. I m trying to make $150/day with the program I m involved. And looks practical.
Anyways would be nice if anyone had tried this product but yes we need honest answer.

www,make150aday.com

Hey,
are you never tired to post and push your website onto John's readers ?
Dude, there's so many ways to advertise nowadays that it's sad to just see people spamming blog comments again and again.

Tony

Tony..
Common now--lets be honest here now.
Why are we all in here commenting? You know the reason--am I right?
And you consider me spamming versus all the ads you see about making zillions of dollars...

What did I say wrong in my comment?
BTW--Your site/blog is not working...

I wanted to explain more...
About ways of advertising and am aware of them--this is also one of them.
And about getting tired--I don't think i m tired since I don't think I m spamming--Consider those top commenters--Are they tired? Not that there is anything wrong with them. I think they are doing their best and I salute them.
Once I make enough money then you will see me advertising on this blog on the top spot as well.

but if you consider that as spamming then my apology.

Thank you.

I think he was referring to you adding your website at the bottom of the comment when it's already in the link in your name. Some feel if they want to visit your site they'll just click on your name with your link. That way everyone won't be adding their websites at the bottom of the comment. :wink:
~Terry