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Banned From Digg

written by John Chow on November 24, 2006

How one lazy bum made $176,697.50

I’ve just found out from HMTKSteve that he tried to submit my Coming Full Circle story to Digg and found that Digg had banned my URL. I sent Digg an email asking for an explanation. Here’s the reply I got:

When submitted stories are consistently reported as spam and users complain via our feedback email about submission spam, we ban the domain. The domain will not be unbanned. The domain would consistently get reported as spam otherwise. Please review our FAQ (digg.com/faq) for more information.

–digg support

It seems there’s an “I hate John Chow” Digg group that is burying/reporting all my stories as spam. If a sites gets reported enough, Digg bans the URL. I ask Digg to unban the URL, but judging by the reply, it doesn’t look good.

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Dont worry John, you have our support..

We are consistently visiting your sites for tips,informations and making money ideas..

Derrick’s last blog post: What Is Affiliate Marketing ?

Does anyone want to do anything about this?
This cant go ignored any longer.
We need to do something to BURY DIGG

well i can see why they banned john because of jealousy but for the small marketer i don't see why

Hey John, my harmless little blog just got banned from Digg too. Did you ever have any luck getting 'un-banned'? I sent them an email but at best I'm expecting an automated style response! :(

i'm gLAD I DIDN'T GET BANNED FROM DIGG BT I HARDLY USE IT

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maybe because;

1. it was obvious from the user digging pattern on your submits it fell into the "gaming digg" category

2. you out and out stole their icons for your little comment voting, god forbid you make up your own

3. no one gives a shit about how much money you make i.e. -my interview about my $10k car stereo (translation- look at my wallet, not my dick)

i for one am happy i don't have to see your posts there anymore. they were constantly 2 days too late to be relevant

I'm gueesing the bury brigade has never read your blog so they do not know you are related to TTZ!

Also, John - how much do you get when TTZ gets dugg to the homepage

So...how has traffic been since

That is completely ridiculous! How could this blog with hundreds of posts be marked as spam. This is just a result of the Digg system being abused by the few people who want all of the traffic.

Nomar, this blog is obviously spam. Actually, digg just doesn't like blogs, or something? Who knows, but yes he's still banned afaik.

bypass the digg ban u say?
really now.

do share.

banner by digg? wow I just hear it.....

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Quote:
When submitted stories are consistently reported as spam and users complain via our feedback email about submission spam, we ban the domain. The domain will not be unbanned. The domain would consistently get reported as spam otherwise.

-The Digg Watch Team."

This blog wouldn't be the same without anon. :)

its cuz you ARE a spammer you f*cukin douche.

you actually thought you'd get away with it?

how many of your lame ass stories had to make it to the digg front page in a row b4 people caught on? WAY TOO MANY. l8r "mogul".

My blog url has been banned also.
It seems that Digg is a perfect not-working-fine web 2.0 service. They do what they want, democracy is a "banned" word with them.

Sadly, this isn't the first time this has happened
Sorry it happened to you John

It doesn't even take more than 20 buries to get a URL banned. This isn't something good for digg. Their spam tackling technique is gonna kill them someday

OK, when I said I Dugg my stories, I obviously meant submitting them. Sorry for the confusion. I'm a bit mad right now, as it all happened just a minute ago.

Hi all,

I've just started a blog, with all-original content. I figured one way of building a readership would be through Digg. While trying to add a Digg This link to my posts (not very simple unfortunately), I thought I'd Digg my own posts, since I've never found any rule against this.

In a few weeks, I Dugg a total of six or seven of my own stories. They received a small number of Diggs, but sent quite a few much-needed visitors.

Now I was shocked to find out that some people got me banned from Digg. I received the same automated response.

I did take part in some debates, maybe some of the people who disagreed with me chose to get me banned.

In any case, the Digg community seems to be very immature and superficial, very often commenting and Digging stories after only reading the titles.

Digg is still a worthwhile service, but their handling of spam allegations is ridiculously wrong.

Just one question: what if the domain in question is totally innocent, and someone else is spamming it in a blatant way, either in order to get it banned, or just out of misguided good intentions?

This is sad. I'm sure John's site won't miss the Digg traffic, but not everybody is so lucky... OK, it's not about luck but hard work, but still.

I agree I have been in the Digg game for some time and have realized that Digg users are the worst time of traffic you can get in terms of earnings. They come, they plunder and the leave never to be seen again. So even though at times the majority of traffic for most sites, those sites never get any Adsense clicks nor traffic that comes back.

Digg banned me for quote "being a middleman". I manage websites on behalf of people who do not have the time to maintain websites. Is that a sin?

Hey John, I am also a great fan of this Blog and I have been trying my hand at Digging aswell in recent times and I found that Digg has a lot issues they need to sort and if the ppl running Digg is oblivious to the fact that they don't have perfect system then we better start our own Digg asap :)

Then Kevin Rose will have to pull Digging together.

Just a thought :P

I just tried to submit a story on digg and i too am banned. I am guessing if you don't do stories on x-box or play station or submit a video about diet coke and mentos from youtube then you don't stand a chance with the cartoon kiddies at digg. geez, what is their audience age range, 11 to 15?

John: It seems that you received an automated message, because when I asked to be unbanned from digg last month, I got the EXACT same awnser from them..

We all know what most digg users think of articles on blogs..

BLOGSPAM!

This is ridiculous. It's not like we cannot provide innovative content after all..

Well John.....Thanks for visiting my blog. I meant if we can digg your stories or do sumthing to get you unbanned.

steven - Digg accounts for 17% of this month's referrals.

Anshul - I doubt there is anything you can do to get me unbanned, but thanks!

Lawrence - I may do a post on Digg's bury system.

Michael - You make some good points but I don't think that the reason I was banned. Remember, it only takes a small group to ban a site. I doubt this group represents Digg in general.

Everyone else - Thank you for the support! I'm not going anywhere.

This is really bad John. Can we readers do sumthing to get it unbanned?

John,

This is a tough break. Is digg.com your #1 source for referrers?

Steve,
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I think one of the issues here is that Digg users only respect their own. If you aren't on there actively promoting stories from all over the net, but instead only Digg your own blog or related sites, then you're going to get buried. It doesn't matter that you weren't the only one submitting your stories, as you have several fans such as Crest444, hav0k and others who pretty much only submit stories from you or Stephen Fung. Whether they do so purely because they like your site a lot doesn't matter if it starts to give others the impression that their sole purpose on Digg is to promote you and your friends. After a while, those users begin to look suspiciously like sockpuppets.

Sure, such factors aren't exclusive to your presence on Digg, but eventually Digg management has to do something that makes it seem like they care about the quality of submissions, even if it means picking on one of the few bloggers who regularly produces good, original content. Singling your blog out is easier than going after the really big fish, who seem to be immune from Digg justice.

I love your site and have subscribed to your RSS feed for some time, but Digg is Digg and works the way it works. Anyway, I really think you can do without them. They helped bring you some exposure, but I'm sure you'll bring in much better traffic and more users through other channels and means.

John,

We need another post about this. You would be doing Digg a favor by getting hackaday banned and exposing this flaw to the world.

Your Loyal Viking,
Lawrence

we all know that there are teams on digg that are actively promoting some and bury another stories. there are lots of money to be made from the traffic that digg generates. John, you probably were getting too much traffic that they wanted for themselves :-)

I am sorry that this happened to you.

Nikolai

I am not 100% sure on the 10 buried stories to get banned, but I am sure on the 10 bury votes to kill a story. Also, the bury votes has to be for "Spam" and not the other reasons for being buried, like dupe. Then again, I'm sure if you get enough dupes, you will get ban as well.

Where are you getting this 10/10 figure from?

If it is true, my blog may be banned soon too!

I'm not blaming anybody for getting banned. It's just really too bad that a small group of haters can get together and pretty much ban any sites they want from Digg.

All it takes is 10 bury votes to kill a story. Kill 10 stories and that site is banned for life. It doesn't matter how many positive Diggs the site have gotten. A group of 10 can kill it. Not exactly democratic is it?

I highly doubt my posting pictures from my dining out pissed the haters off. I think it's when I said getting a job is the dumbest thing is the world to do. :)

I think mrrbob is exactly right, you're blog isn't all that bad, that's not what I meant in my comment (first one) its just that you had so many diggs in such a short amount of time, and talking about living the high life just rubbed some people the wrong way. Like I said, I don't mind, but I can see why others would get annoyed.

Thank you, Sunny, I did not know I had so many fans :)

Going back to my previous statement, I feel John's published many good articles and even though I do not always agree with his point of view I have a pleasure of reading most of his articles.
The problem with Digg is that there are some rules in their terms of use, which may contradict with an acceptable fair use policy for John's site. Moreover in some cases Digg community enforcing the unenforceable, such as SPAM mail whereas according to TOS section 12 such provisions will be "limited or eliminated to the minimum extent necessary so that the Terms of Use shall otherwise remain in full force and effect and enforceable".

Mmm...My url is also banned, has been for months.

don't worry about it, your blog has a good reputation anyways

There's a concept of social news system using no voting. According to this article http://hubpages.com/hub/Social_news_without_voting the system is resistant to spam and voting cliques. I actually don't know if it really works.

Mrrbob: I am worried a bit about Internet laws for Web2.0, which may be relevant for many of us and how these laws are mapped to the state laws.

You can blame all your little fanboys or just accept that you were on there a little too much and accept what you got. I think after reading all your "look at what expensive meal I'm having tonight" stuff they got a little sick of your brag, uh, I mean blog.

Personally I could care less about your bragging about stuff like what your eating etc. I still think this blog is worth reading but that kind of shit does piss off a lot of people. I got friends that read your blog and rip on you all the time for that stuff, but they do keep reading though, haha.

If you still want to game digg just start a pure tech blog and put your tech articles and tech news stuff over there then reference them here. Have your fanboys submit that blog instead of this one but make sure that blog is more commercial or just make it a part of thetechzone.com (blog.thetechzone.com) or put it on another URL so when the next blog gets banned you can just 301 everything to the new URL and keep the train going for ever.

While the traffic here may feed your ego the bottom line is what really matters right?

I like Digg but what a load of bull shit that was. So what if you're banned John, we will still visit you anyway!

Jim, i think it's otherwise -- the prominent bloggers will ban Digg ... ;)

I think eventually everyone will be banned from digg...