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Comment Signatures – Yay or Nay?

written by John Chow on August 1st, 2007

How do you feel about commentators leaving their signature in their comments? Most commentators on this blog don’t leave a signature because their blog or web site is already linked in their name.

I can understand why a signature is needed for a forum but is it really needed for a blog? For those reader who like to end their comment with a signature, I like to hear your reason for it. Many blogs have started banning comment signatures. My spam filter holds all comments with more than one link in it.

Comment signatures – yay or nay? Cast your vote (in the comments of course) and your reason(s) for it. I’ll add it all up in a few days and see where the community stands. Then I’ll decide if I should ban comment signatures like many other blogs.

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  1. John, you’re getting closer! At least this post was about blogging. :wink:

    Personally, I don’t think comment signatures are needed. As you said, in forums that’s one thing but that’s what the URI field is for.

  2. I think its not needed but it is useful. For bloggers, their name is linked so thats why its not necessary. On that note…

    - Enkay Blog
    http://nkhan.jwmediabox.com/blog

  3. It’s up to that commentator i think, because as we know human got different taste :) But it’s not important to do, so better not to put signature :D

  4. I just don’t see a reason for it. Our name (or keywords) are listed along with a direct link to our site already. The comment signature just takes up more space and can be spammy. I say Nay!

  5. I vote nay. The only link they need is the one attached to their name.

  6. I say no sig in comment link. It’s already linked in their name, and that’s nice enough.

  7. There’s no real reason for it, other than to spam a link. If the viewer wants to follow a link, the name is all they need.

  8. I think they are terrible things, and should be banned.

    Rhys – The Gospel According To Rhys
    http://www.gospelrhys.co.uk

    (irony definitely intended)

  9. I don’t think it matters, commentators aren’t gaining anything from it since URLs are nofollow anyway.

    On another note, when’s the draw for the LCD monitor? It’s August 1st!

  10. I hate them. The link in the name should be sufficient enough, if a second link needs to be dropped then it should be relevant to the post topic. Personally I hate them on the forums too but that’s just me.

  11. Nathan

    I VOTE YAY

    -Nathan Maxson
    experiencetheweb.info

  12. Yes! And it’s simple… “Because I can”!



    Los Ziegler…

  13. Nay nay, it will look like a cheap forum, not a blog comment.

  14. Nay. A like on your name or keyworded names, is plenty.

  15. It annoy’s me, and it makes me want to visit the link less.

    :arrow: NAY.

  16. Well…it’s a good thing my opinion is the only one that matters in this case (other than John’s, of course), because y’all are completely wrong. :mrgreen:

    And actually the fault lies in the design of Wordpress. First, they put in the link tied to the name…and then they turn off the link love.

    I would love to see Wordpress offer bloggers more choice in this matter. Turn them on, turn them off, allow the link AND A SITE TITLE or not, etc. Then it would truly be up to the blogger’s discretion. But here’s why just saying “I don’t like it” doesn’t cut the mustard, people…

    Because the whole point of these damn things is supposed to be COMMUNITY…and you’re missing the entire point when people who are struggling to be notice have to call themselves Cheap Viagra, Casino Info…or, BLOGGING EXPERIMENT. You don’t get a vote, my friend.

    Let’s make this about community…and let’s be honest about the reason that most people contribute to blogs…yes, they enjoy the content of the posts and have something to throw in…but they’re also trying to get their stuff noticed online.

    Hopefully, someone will build a plugin that does away with the linked name and gives us a linked title instead (separate from the name). And then the blogger can choose for him/herself whether it should be allowed on their blog at all.

    shoots, scores, nuthin’ but net, heads for the locker room…

  17. If i’ve got the URL in the name, no sig is needed. One or the other will suffice. I think both would be overkill.

  18. I automatically discount comments that have signatures, plus they clutter a site up.

    Just comment and be done.

    • Why is this? This is similar to when Digg-Nazis bury a story because a blogger writes up a killer entry to accomodate a big news story, because it’s ‘blogspam’. If it were up to me, go ahead and ban the idiots that contribute nothing, and let the guys who drive discussions do what they want, within reason, of course.

      DevDad

  19. In a case where we are linked in our name anyways, I dont see why they are needed. Links in comments should only be posted if they’re relevent. I can see a site disabling them if it becomes a problem, but I dont think its a problem for this site John, you shouldnt have to disable them unless people are spamming you with it and really not providing any quality with their comments.

  20. It detracts from scrolling through comments. If I’m a familiar webizen I know that I can just click your name to get to your website.

  21. I agree that signatures look more like forums than blog comments.

    I signature with a funny tagline I think it’s OK, but text only, no links: the URI is enough (a link that belongs to the comment itself should be OK, though).

    I wouldn’t use it anyway: there’s no way to remember the signature and you have to copy and paste in on every blog comment.

  22. I vote nay. Self-promotion is nice, but the purpose of the comments is different…

  23. it doesnt me too much but I certainly dont think theres any need for it as the link is already there

  24. Who wants to put signature?? Just spam at my blog :D

  25. No need for signatures. It gets very repetitive when you make multiple comments.

  26. Sometimes I will change my name to the project that I am working on, For example EveryDayFiction.com

    and add a sig so people know who I am, but I never link my sig.

    - Steven Smethurst

  27. I don’t care for signatures in comments for two reasons:

    1. It looks too promotional, like you’re trying extra hard to get people to go to your site… and if your comment isn’t much longer than your signature, it looks like that’s the only reason you’re leaving your mark to begin with.

    2. I expect comments to be directly related to the post at hand. Signatures in comments is not the norm, and it trips me up when I see them. I’m expecting to read more about the commenter’s thoughts, and then feel gypped because it turns out to be just a signature.

  28. No Signatures Please! The comments are what is important.

  29. I say nay, there is no useful advantage to the other readers of the post or to the post it self. What would go in sig besides the person’s name, again, the url again, but maybe have the full url for people to see and not just the link.

    For people that are putting their name as a blog for the link and seo of that, might include their name in a sig area, but there is nothing to stop them from doing something like this

    - Sean

    At the end to sign it with their name.

    The only other use would be add useless “buy my __seo type product__ product at my website now, only $xxx.95 until the end of the week” or something unrelated to the post it self.

    Thats my 2 cents.

  30. I’m so used to leaving a signature in all my communication, I do the same in my comments however I always just put my name. It’s never a link!

    Darin

  31. Sigs are annoying, they clutter things up and are generally unnecessary. Who clicks them anyway? If you want to get exposure, then make a comment that is relevant to one of your own blog posts and link that up, that will get clicked. I will never click a sig, but I will click a link to a relevant post if I like the comment.

    I vote nay

    Simon

  32. m0n

    I think it depends on the context. What is the nature of the dialogue? Who is engaged in the conversation? Where is the comment being posted? Etc., etc. I think impersonal comments such as this generally do not require signatures, while more personal or formal discussions may benefit from them. Ultimately, I would advise against an inflexible mentality that says “always” or “never” – it’s like, come on. Try to go with the flow and be real.

  33. GA

    I don’t think its an issue, therefore I say don’t ban.

  34. Yay Yay Yay!
    Come on!
    Repeat after me.
    Yay Yay Yay!
    If you want to see my daily progression:
    BlogaDollar.com
    Greetings from France John.

  35. Sigs are annoying, they clutter things up and are generally unnecessary. Who clicks them anyway? If you want to get exposure, then make a comment that is relevant to one of your own blog posts and link that up, that will get clicked. I will never click a sig, but I will click a link to a relevant post if I like the comment.

    I vote nay

    Simon :mrgreen:

  36. Sigs are annoying, they clutter things up and are generally unnecessary. Who clicks them anyway? If you want to get exposure, then make a comment that is relevant to one of your own blog posts and link that up, that will get clicked. I will never click a sig, but I will click a link to a relevant post if I like the comment.

    I vote nay

    Simon

    P.S. Sorry if you see this comment more than once, I can’t seem to get it posted. :neutral:

  37. Nay.

    MrGPT

    (my comment signature is a joke, but really, nay)

  38. After reading the comment….

    I will vote Nay…

  39. I would say nay…in WordPress your name is your signature. If someone did come up with a signature plugin like Chuck Brown was talking about up there that would be great.

  40. I vote to get rid of comment signatures. What I do like is how Al at http://www.selfmademinds.com hacked up the comments to now say “Name from Website” so for me it’s “Matthew from GadgetVenue” with the gadgetvenue being a link.

  41. I’m all for it. It tells you a lot more than a screen name can

    One Man. One Year. $100,000 online. How’s he doing it?
    http://www.oneyeargoal.com

  42. I never use signature, ¿is time for use it?

    Alex
    BlogHogwarts.com

  43. OK…if you all believe what you’re saying about there being no purpose in linking and no ulterior motives in the process of comment posting:

    - stop using names other than your own
    - stop linking to your sites from your names

    Then you have some credibility. Your arguments make no sense if you’re not being honest in the first place about your motivation behind them.

    I agree totally with all the Nays that are offered for the purpose of reducing clutter.

    What I am arguing FOR is something better than what we have now. That may not be a sig line at the end of a comment. But a linked name is lame. Better that we all call each other by our names and allow relationships to develop natually in cases where they do. Don’t you tend to gravitate toward like-minded people? Or…if you prefer to debate, aren’t you drawn to those who make intelligent counterpoints?

    And as to the comment Simon made: “Who clicks them anyway?” Well, I do. Anytime someone says something intriguing in a comment…something that add value and additional information…or maybe cuts totally across the grain, I am curious to know more about them. Maybe I’m alone in that. But I want to know WHO THEY ARE…not that they came up with a creative name to call themselves in the comments. That’s just as lame as comment sigs, if you ask me.

    You can’t solve a problem until you’re honest about the issues behind it.

    • I for one never said there was no purpose in linking, I said that one link (your name line) provides enough of the linking value. To also have a link as a signature is just redundant and unnecessary. Plus as many have mentioned, it takes up more space.

    • Thats fine, I’ll click the persons name also if I like the comment, and I’ll definitely click on a relevant post, but I won’t click on an extra link on the comment, that is clutter. And worse still are guys that leave their name blank but then they put a sig in the comment, WTF, or even worse are a few dudes that leave their name blank but then they put the URL of their site in text which you then have to copy and paste onto a new browser window. Its useless clutter.

      Keep it simple, if there’s a link in your name, you don’t need another one unless its to a relevant post.

      Simon

    • I have written a number of posts about commenting – both as a strategy and as a value-added contribution to the blog culture. I totally agree with you about visiting other people’s sites when they make intelligent comments.

      One thing I can’t agree with is that you will become successful in anything if you simply allow things to develop naturally. Even the biggest brand names in the world continue to advertise to make sure they attract more customers and keep their current ones. Bloggers are no different. Until the total number of blogs goes down to way less than a billion, we’re stuck competing for people’s time.

      That being said, I’m against the spam tag line. I like the linked name.

  44. Ooooh…thanks for that tip, Matthew!

    SelfMadeMinds is doing exactly what I think is the perfect solution to this dilemma.

    That would be worth looking into…how he got that done. It’s probaby rather simple (although I don’t know the first thing about programming or editing code).

  45. I say Nay, if what your post is good they’ll click your name link otherwise your just being pushy.

  46. You need a poll for this?? I think you knew what the answer would be before you wrote the post…I guess that the poll just stops any backlash when you stop signatures as you can claim it wasn’t your decision! :grin:

  47. I vote yay.

    Shouldn’t we be encouraging comments? Just allow a maximum of one link in a comment and let the commentator decide what link they use, if any.

    The problem on this site isn’t the signatures, it’s the meaningless comments from people trying to get on the Top Commentators list. They reply to every comment as if they own the blog!

    If I were you John, I’d scrap the Top Commentators list, and install an ‘incoming links‘ plugin instead. You’d cut out the spammy comments and be flooded with backlinks.

  48. Well, the only ’signature’ I use is when I add my real name to the bottom of my comments. I used to find this really annoying when people would do it on message boards and other blogs then it just sort of grew on me. ;)

    Steve

  49. Yes, if you moderate them much better than you are now and get a new blog design

    Otherwise, no

  50. Definitely nay. It just comes off sounding spammy and it serves no purpose, because the person’s name already links to their site. What’s more, unlike a forum signature, the commentator has to make a distinct effort to include their signature IN EVERY COMMENT. It’s not automatic.

  51. Hello John,
    First i would like to congratulate with you for breaking the milestone on the RSS readers, i knew you were going to break within this month (if you remember I even mentioned that).

    Anyway, back to the topic and this blog post. I could write a 10 lines long comment in regards, but why, when I can answer with a simple answer “NAY” and i mean “NAY DAMN IT NAY”. I personally for those few comments i get, i won’t actually publish the comment if they place a text and play like it is a signature or i will actually remove their signature. Ok you might think, it is their comment so should remain intact, and okey i answer it is my blog and should remain clean.

    Having your website already linked within your name (which in most cases is used with the site name or even keywords for your site) is more than enough, why should someone want to spoil others blog and stuff their comment with signature links here and there, if the blogger wanted his commentators to have a signature he would of hire someone to write a plugin to do that (if there is not one yet out there).

    Heck, anyway i wrote 10 lines (or a little bit more).

  52. Quite a good idea, but i think you would have to offer member signups.

  53. John, comments really depend on the type of site that you have. Even if it’s a blog associated site. My site for example, I’d prefer to have no comments and all concerns/questions be forwarded to my e-mail.

    Moneyquill.com – Your online guide to the hottest deals on the net!

  54. Churchill

    Allow spamming I mean signatures ? No way

  55. dcr

    The comment signatures don’t bother me, as long as the actual comment is longer than the signature!

    But, when you see comments that are very short with a promotional signature, it leaves the impression that the commentator is nothing more than a blog spammer.

    Mind you, long comments are not always necessary. Sometimes I think it’s helpful just to apply with agreement, just to give the blogger some measure of feedback. A “forced” comment isn’t necessarily much better than a short “right on!” comment.

    To those that believe that a signature is necessary to inform people about your blog, leave more substantial comments. I know that I am more likely to check out the blog of someone who posts a reasonable comment than someone that posts:

    You suck!

    Please visit my super duper blog on making more money than you can dream of at dreamonsuperduperblog.dom.

  56. I’m gonna go with a “NO” to signatures in the comments. The link in our names should be enough. Otherwise I’m afraid it will get too spammy.

  57. I agree, not needed when the commentors name is alreay a link to their site.

  58. ian

    It is a clear cut simple case, you are allowed your site URL in your comments name, placing it within the text of your comments as well is just blatant spam and should be deleted.

    • What if you have two websites? That presents another issue. For example, if someone comments on this blog with a specific name for SEO purposes, is there anything wrong with mentioning your personal blog in a signature?

      I can imagine there are many readers on here who use specific keywords in their link’s anchor text in order to increase their rankings for their business’ website. They may want to mention their personal site in their sig, since no one would know about it otherwise. Is that still spam?

      DevDad

  59. I’m also a no – it’s seems excessive when, as you said it your post, the commentators name is already a link.

  60. I don’t think it’s necessary to have that if you can provide the link in the name. It’s overkill..

  61. OK, since everyone is having so much fun shouting “Nay, Dammit!”. Tell me…honestly…you don’t find THIS just a bit spammy and cluttery…talking to people named:

    Stay At Home Dad, Geek Style
    SEO Optimization
    a video a day
    Blogging Experiment
    Cash Quests
    OneYearGoal.com – $100,000 in one year
    Simon’s Money Notes
    Search Engine Marketing
    Free Chinese Daily Horoscopes
    Harry Potter 7
    High Return Investing with Dax
    GET Free Stuff for a Link
    Hawaii SEO

    Planning to name your kids that as well, are ya? :lol:

    C’mon folks. Stop drinking the Koolaid and admit that there must be a better way than having to identify yourselves that way.

    I was half-joking about wanting to include sigs (we all hate clutter)…but only because I didn’t know of a better option (until Matthew shared about the cool solution at SelfMadeMinds).

    It’s time to inject some reality here…and defending the status quo when you call yourself by those kinds of names…sorry, that’s just flat disingenuous. If the point of comments is dialogue and not self-promotion…then turn off the promo machine and become a normal human being again. Or at least, admit that the way things are pretty much sucks for functionality.

    • Good thing I wasn’t on the Top Commentators at the time you read this posting. I suppose my last name could be Empire.

      I don’t know, I’d consider naming one of my children A video a day Lewis. With a first name of ‘A’ they would always get to go first in gym class. If it was a girl I could call her AVA for short.

    • Good points, but then we’re getting into a different debate, because blogs like Cash Quests have no focus whatsoever on the blogger, which I think is wrong. I want to know who a blogger is and be able to relate to him or her.

  62. Comment signatures make a person who comments look desperate and detract from any point the author may be making.

    • I think those who are not spammers offer intelligent enough commentary to never seem desperate. I would imagine that John prefers good comments with signatures to useless ones without them. Again, I am a big advocate of not commenting unless you have something to add, no matter how comprehensive it may be.

      For example, I like Tyler Cruz’s blog. However, given his mood this evening, he probably got more clicks based on comments that say “Suck a dick!” than the readers that had something useful to say. It’s the nature of the beast.

      DevDad

  63. Comment signatures aren’t needed, especially because the name is linked so I vote nay

  64. I agree to have one not many. The one signature link must relevant to that particular post.

  65. There’s something about comment signatures that screams spam to me. Imagine the quality of comments you’d get if you ran a “dofollow” plugin? I’d love to read some insightful comments from “Forex Trading Online”.

    One Man. One Year. One Xbox360. Ambitious AND successful.
    http://www.swollenpickles.com

  66. Sha

    Well guess what, John can start making extra cash from this too. Those who want their siggy appear should pay some cash. Those who don’t, can just sit quietly okay and comment as much as you like. :twisted:

    Cheers!
    Sha

  67. I finally got to the bottom!

    I don’t like the tag line on a post as much as I hate seeing no name/website included.

  68. JC

    “One Man. One Year. $100,000 online. Ambitious AND successful.
    http://www.oneyear888.com

    i want to kick this guys ass, for more then a month now been seeing this shit from him.

  69. I get job offers for writing solid comments on web development/design blogs. Then they hit my website and portfolio and “BANG” the sell is complete, because the like the comment and love what they see on my portfolio. So, I say “YAY” on comments.

  70. the problem is not the signature. if someone is writing a comment just to get his link out (aka SPAM) that’s the problem. if someone is writing a “good” comment i don’t mind the signature. someone writing just a meaningless one-liner is always worse

  71. You guys might get a kick out of this article I wrote, entitled “Top 5 Reasons Why Bloggers Have Become Whores”. It’s about the comment issue. It’s on Digg, too, if anyone is interested.

    DevDad

  72. Like, trafficbandit, I don’t mind comment signature granted that the poster is not just posting useless spam. I like seeing how other people promote there sites as well through the language they use. Allowing something simple like a comment signature to a valuable contributor could possibly result in them asking you to do a guest writing on the blog which in turn would be a chance to publicize your blog.

  73. No signatures in the comments- let’s keep it “real”, as they say.. or… what?

  74. I say no to comment signatures for blogs. If they want to view your site they can. They don’t need to be able to do it twice, with the second way in their face.

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