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Google Goes After PayPerPost

written by John Chow on November 17, 2007

How one lazy bum made $176,697.50

If trying to beat up Text Link Ads wasn’t enough, Google has got its sights on a new target: PayPerPost. CEO Ted Murphy is claiming that Google is going after bloggers in the PayPerPost network and reducing their PageRank from whatever they previously had to zero. That’s right, zero!

Murphy is of course calling foul for what he see as Google trying to defend their “monopolistic stranglehold on search and online advertising.”

It is no coincidence that Google has gone after some blogs that utilize PayPerPost and many of our competitors services. We offer a very attractive alternative to AdSense and are leading a charge to provide real monetization for everyday bloggers. Unlike the Google AdSense black box, we are palms up when it comes to revenue share and give bloggers the lions share of advertising dollars that they deserve.

Murphy also took a shot at TechCrunch, asking how come Google doesn’t de-rank them for making posts that thank their sponsors.

I find it laughable that high profile bloggers like TechCrunch aren’t being penalized in the same way. Perhaps it’s the fact that they use AdSense. Perhaps it’s the fact that they are silicon valley insiders and are invited to special Google events. Either way I don’t see the difference between a sponsored post in our system or this sponsored post. Both are paid for, neither use no-follow.

TechCrunch rebutted Murphy’s statement in this post.

In what looks like an attempt to fight back against the Google machine, PayPerPost’s parent company, IZEA, is working on something call RealRank (code named Project Goo Gone), an alternative to Google PageRank. Hopefully, that works better than the Blogger Choice Awards. Have your PageRank been affected for being a PayPerPost publisher?

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Most of my sites page ranks dropped -1

Yeah, my pagerank dropped from 2 to 0. That was strange because my site was upgraded from 0 to 2 not too long ago and I haven't changed my site much between those 2 times.

It's not true that Google is penalizing only those blogs with excessive PPP posts. Mine has plenty of original content with minimal PPP (since I only started with PPP not long ago).

This sucks big time and Google is totally unfair.

99% of PPP blogs got what they deserve! I did not agree with most of Google's actions lately, but this one I totally support.
All of those blogs had nothing but paid posts, and no useful content.
If people weren't greedy and had every third post as paid (not every singe one) I am pretty sure your blogs would still have PR.
And after "real rank" comes out Google will probably start deindexing those blogs. Remember, this was just a warning.

although then again i have heard of www.realrank.com which i guess is suppose to go after pagerank.. i guess we shall see..

im surprised that yahoo hasn't really gone after them... maybe they are preparing...

i wonder if anyone will be able to stop google...

What! She didn't mention she was going to sell. Still $15000 isn't much, but then look at the direction of recent posts. Mmm. Smart girl!

The extinction of so many blogs: Nah! It's just the end of the beginning, the market is maturing...
Kenneth

I noticed this PR drop today and was wondering. Hopefully they just had an error on the penalty. That is just not fair.

yes, lets us write a petition,let worldwide now and lets fuck google!!! We all shld ask everyone boycott stupid google who want to kill off all his competitor in this way, this is a petty act and to think google is a big company!!!

The Google PR de-ranking has almost devastated the blogsphere. Check out how many blogs are out there for sale at Sitepoint.com , you will be amazed.

i havent seen that, may need to go see if i could buy something. lol.

PEEPS, GET OVER IT.

According to SitePoint.com, CashQuests.com is sold at $15,000. It is a surprise to most of Kumiko's readers. All the best wishes to Kumiko.

i was shocked., guess there are other plans in the works for kumiko.

I think google needs to go back to the drawing board and rethink their actions. There also needs to be some strong competition from other search engines because google is becoming too much of a monopoly.

Google is acting like the recording industry. Lets punish our customers, only at least google is not suing you. If google decides that there is something wrong with their algo, they should fix it. That fix should not include punishing people. It's not our job to run our websites to make google work.

Depends on who you consider to be the real customers, the thousands of webmasters that use Google to get traffic or the millions of users that use Google to find revelant sites. The main point of Google as a service is so we can find useful sites fast. And you are right, it's not our job to make Google work, that's why it is their decision on what to make with sponsored links.

FINALLY someone is pointing out the fact that PPP is just a simple POS (Piece Of Sh*t) it's about time! Now alot of people are regretting that they even joined PPP... because it takes a while to build up a sites PR and the sites credibility. LOL sucks to be YOU!

I went from a PageRank 5 to a ZERO. Goodbye PayPerPost. I've removed everything. Hopefully, Google will recognize this and fix the rank. I've conformed. Bow to Google!

Great article, thanks. This was exactly info I needed looking at my recent PR plunge to 0 AFTER the long awaited PR update. Sure enough the blogs now showing PR0 are indeed my PayPerPost earners. :(

NOT cool. Does Google think that the are the only one entitled to make any money on the Net or what? Shame.

Hey John you blog celebrity slut! I hope you get to read this and my post about you because I think you're the bitch Paris Hilton of the blogosphere! Have a great blog whoring day bitch!

http://www.bloggingmix.com/2007/11/why-john-chow-i...

That sounded evil Rocky! :twisted:

Well ain't he just like the high-class bitch Paris Hilton? Hey John, I got a $400 diamond ring down here and I'll throw in a pack of condoms to boot. Write me a freakin' review! LOL

This is just simple monopolization technique used by Google. I don't see anything wrong selling paid posts/links/etc..

There would still be advertisers who have cash to burn and publishers who wants to monetize their blog.. Simple advertisement deal and that's all - what's wrong selling ads on the blog?

My guess is that Google just wants to monopolize the entire online ads industry, they have more tricks up their sleeves, just watch.. soon they will only recommend you to sell 125x125 ad slots using their Adsense system only..

I went from 2/10 to 0/10. Google is really monopolizing the web.

Very interesting news. Thank John. :wink:

What's next? ReviewMe being penalized?

For bloggers who are slashed at by Google and their PR down scaled to zero, I bring you here some good news. I just found it out in the IZEA blog (parent company of PerPerPost). The abstract is ......

You mean the realrank thing? :mrgreen:

confirmed... type John Chow in Google and the top natural listing is John Cow with a PR of 3....

also, this was funny in the about us area:

......."we’re having fun and we’ll just have to cope with the real John Chow bugging us on IM all the time!

I have noticed a few PR3 and even PR4 blogs that have the same kind of linkage and the same type and level of monetization as the ones that got knocked down to zero. I have to wonder what they had or didn't have that amounts to an immunity necklace.

when you search for "john chow" in google... the 2nd result is www.johncow.com Yes!! www.johncow.com (NOT www.johnchow.com)
Yours!
Lucas

It makes sense because this site has been penalized for a long time. In johncow.com's case, they have a similar domain name and has tons of content inside their site that references this one.

Johnchow the Techcrunch link is wrong I think.Did you try not linking directly to Techcrunch.com.The word and link is missing "c".

I have had mixed results. Two of my PR3 blogs fell to 0. However, one of my blogs went up to PR5 from PR3. Now I write less but still make almost the same amount from PPP.

Woops! I'm taking my revenge on Google SLOWLY... I no longer accept that when a company can take good honest hard working people and screw them so royally as Google just did, that that is good, just or right. Google is no longer 'don't be evil' --- it's 'don't be evil when it suits... otherwise be as nasty as hell'

Read my anti-Google effort here.

I have stopped payperpost for a long time, while it can make you lots of money, but i feel that my pr can work on other better things.

Yes, it make s me a little money but not so much that it is my #1 source of earnings. That's still our linkie friends...

Kenneth

And Techcrunch don't use no_follow that's for sure.. Check out my posting to see the story. I was quite shocked so I filed a report with Google! I'm also now anti Google...

Kenneth

On my other site www.politicalcoffeehouse.com I went from a page rank of 4 to a 0. I have taken down my google adsense adds and am calling on a boycott of adsense. Google is an advertising company. That is their main revenue source. Without sites to post their adds on they might think twice about pissing off site owners.

Google wants to be the only superpower in the internet !
Hope RealRank succeed !

my main site from pr4 to pr2 then up to pr3 and i'm a payperposter. My second site from pr3 to pr0. dam google

Maybe we should start a revolt. Every do whatever Google tells you not to do. Remove all nofollow links and start selling links like crazy! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Then they will create a better algorithm instead of blaming on bloggers or whoever.

Google rules
And they showed they do :mrgreen:

john chow is still a pr 6. also, it's no secret but i just checked googles search keyword "john chow" and #1 was john Cow.
john chow.com wasn't listed or way too far back. also, check keyword "make money online" and john chow was no where to be found. couldn't believe who was though (no comment).

What's the point of having a search engine if it's not accurate?

What google is doing now is just plain crazy and unfair!
It really sucks!
I hope RealRank will be implemented ASAP!

Google has become like Standard Oil and Microsoft, a monopoly using it's dominate power in one area to attack competitors in another area it doesn't fully control. If they don't change their ways and soon they'll find themselves defending their actions in US Federal Court, no matter how many Democrat presidential candidates they pay off.

While dropping the PR to zero is bad, I don't see what is so terrible about that. Yes, some blogs will drop in ranks in SERP and the new ones will show up and they will rank higher. What is so wrong with that? I will say Google is giving every body a shot in getting higher rankings.

Let's assume there are two blogs and they have PR4 and PR6. The blog quality is not determined by PR always. Now PR6 always ranks higher in the SERP because they used all kinds of techniques (let's also assume all good marketing technique). They also use PPP

Now Google drops PR6 to PR0 and PR4 starts showing up higher in SERP. What is so terrible about that? And PR4 quality is as good as PR6.

Google is not anti-competitive. Google is giving everybody a chance for higher rankings. This is what Google is doing:

If you have a higher rankings and you want to maintain your rankings, you need to behave in a certain way because there are other sites which are as good as yours. If you don't, other sites will get their chance.

Google is giving fair chance to everybody.

I had a PR of 2 and it dropped to a PR of 0, probably because I have a payperpost banner. Watch out, they might come after "review me" next!

But basically, I'm ignoring pagerank from now on. Its really worthless. Even though my pr was sent to 0, i still rank the same for the same keywords, so it didn't change anything.

I was quite happy when 2 weeks ago, when most blogger takes a PR hit, I managed to get my new blog form PR0 to PR2.

Now, after last night, they completely took away all PR that gave to me. PageRank in not an algorithm anymore, it's a gift to us google citizen from out King Google. If you are obedient, I will throw you a PR to chew on.

Well, I say "eff-you". Even Microsoft is not that arragont. I just wish PPP will update their ranking system soon.

I had a few sites go under. But what surprised me the most was an arcade site of mine that is almost 2 year old get slapped too. 2 years then bam 0... lol. I can not figure this one out. None of my other none bog sites got hit expect for 1 arcade site. weird