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Google Updating Algorithm

written by John Chow on May 31, 2007

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It looks like there is some kind of Google Algorithm update going on. I am no longer ranked number one for the term, “make money online.” Depending on the Google server you’re on, I’m anywhere from the 12th to 50th spot (thanks to everyone who alerted me BTW).

It seems I’m not the only one affected by the latest change. Matt Jones at of Affiliate Programs and Internet Scams reports his site is experiencing Google changes as well.

I hadn’t been ranked for my main term ‘affiliate programs’ but I suddenly popped up on page 3 today! I have checked a few times today to make sure and sometimes my site is page 3, then if I check again a literally 1 minute later it will have disappeared. I guess they are still sorting the algorithm change.

Also I was sent reports that my PR dropped from 4 to 0, but the Google Toolbar still says 4 (and I don’t see why it would drop).

Strange goings on!

I can only assume the changes are designed to discount all the waves of review for linkback, technorati trains, alexa trains, etc. Google didn’t get to be the number one search engine by staying still. You should check the positions of the keywords you were after and see where they are now.

With the algorithm change, I’ve decided to put a stop to my review for linkback promotion. All reviews received to date will be posted, but I will no longer accept new reviews. I may bring the promotion back at a later date with some changes. However, I’m going to take a wait and see for now.

Not being ranked number one for make money online won’t make the drastic change in my traffic. The term sent me about 150 people a day. A nice amount, but very tiny compared to the over 11,000 that read this blog everyday.

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It might have to do with the text links you're selling John. If the rankings don't jump back soon you might consider taking those off. Of course you have to weigh how much the rankings are worth to you though.

The one time I finally need to do a review, John isn't doin' them anymore :roll: . Time to look else where in the blogosphere.

John posted a pagerank tool that would go out to all the different google datacenters and get your pagerank (so you could see if it was in the middle of an update). That page has stopped working for me (and I don't have the link even now...), does anyone have a better one?

Oh, and my site has gotten a small bump, probably 10-15% in organic google traffic, higher up on a lot of terms. I like it :).

A couple of my sites also lost their status near the top of their respective keywords.. They better be back soon.. :evil:

I can confirm this situation. Lot of webs where I work for, are underated on google engine. Maybe is some geolocation upgrade?

I'll still be coming here and reading your site!

There's no stopping how big John's blog is getting through time. Hiccups are inevitable...so is success for geniuses like John here.

Why do we have to resort to using links based on keywords like "make money online" to be number one on the results page?

There's a more legal method.

Just make sure you have lots of contents on Make Money Online.

So john, so you have to keep posting entries mostly with the keywords "make money online". Then, you'll be number one again.

One suggestion. Just have something like.

Make Money Online Step XX:
make sure your entry has the correct word density for make money online.

Afterall, if you search for "click here" you'll end up with Adobe as number one. It's ridiculous, but hey, that's their algorithm.

I got a site with a particular string of profitable keywords for some products I am selling online. It's doing pretty well.

Afterall john, you have PR6. That's good. Just add more relevant content about making money online. That should help.

All the best! Just sharing some SEO stuff I found to work wonderfully.

I think John got his PR6 status because of all the strategies he's implemented all this time. Of course, now he has to reevaluate his review-John-Chow-dot-com linking strategy, but he certainly reaped what he sowed from that.

Its not actually Google Bombing because John uses the terms on his site. Google Bombing is making a site rank for a phrase that doesn't normal exit on the site in question "Miserable Failure" was one of the examples. What it is is reciprocal linking which google have been marking down for about the last year.

I didn't know that's what it meant. All the while I thought it was the abuse of SEO in "any" way.

This is all really simple, read:

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pager...

Now look around the site. Google tells you they don't like buying and selling of links for PR purposes/SE benefit. And a lot of you bloggers just make it too easy for them since you talk about it, advertise it, flaunt it. Not too bright. That's asking to get nailed by Google so when it happens, don't be surprised.

Also when you get links in, you don't get them all in with the same text, that's newbie SEO. You vary it.

Mistakes galore here.

Take a moment to ponder on these things, John -- I'm sure you'll come up with something even more brilliant.

I haven't found any changes for keywords on all my sites. :P

is it a minus thirty penalty?

This Algo update might upset some of the bloggers calculations

It already is, and if it doesn't restore back to normal then it will definitely get some inter-press =P

150/day for this key word may turn some into return visit. So, in the long term, it should bring your more visitor than the mentioned amount

A great way to keep people guessing over the weekend.

I guess this is what makes it fun. whatever changes they make, they always seem to work, I still find what I want every single day.

So you are going to let google decide the way you run your blog?

I thought better of you mr chow :sad:

He can't do anything.

If Google would have been "member driven" it wouldn't have been so successfully.

Glen,

Google is a lovable giant and not a Goliath, it's better to befriend Google, and strike a balance with your audience.

The many tips we KNOW about Google operations have helped many blogger to rise in the blogosphere.

Quality Unique Content, remains King for our audience, which also include Google too.

The big G could actually do evil thing in a larger scale compare to jc

Considering they own half the internet, I agree :eek:

I hate to say 'I told you so'. I wrote a post about the potential dangers with this linking strategy. I also sent John and email and I left a comment in the spam thread. I though he didn't read the message.

If you want to learn more about what might be happening and what to do about it. read here

I'd say most people who look for informations how to make money online will find this blog anyway.

Why not just change the anchor text on a monthly basis? "June is 'Online Business Opportunities'" month, or something like that.

Show Google that you're universally admired *g*.

I think your ranking are appearing then dissapearing because you are searching on different data centers that have not been updated. They are changing the algo though, one of the main changes is clamping down on MFA (adsense) sites.

Yeah I'm back to being number 1 for a certain keyword. A few weeks ago I dropped from being in the top 10 to like page 6 or something along those lines. I'm now back to the top spot. It is weird but good at the same time.

This is interesting. I know that Google is trying to fight all link exchange or sales service (like Text Link Ads and similar) but such a change is scary. I need to check how my sites are doing after this change. I still wonder, what could it be, does Google know which links are worthless?

I´m back again with the keyphrase I use to market my website :smile:

And I do agree with John Chow putting his link promotion in stand by until he can figures it out how G. will play ball with this new change to the Algo.

It's affecting more than just blogs linking to each other. I run a forum that ranked high on a few of the keywords for the manufactuers products. Their site overtook me for the #1 spot for the first time in 5 years a week ago, and then they dropped back to #2.

Some others that were high in the mix for years have fallen to the second page, while new entries with far less content (thousands of pages compared to my 1 million) have jumped to more prominent positions across the board. So much so, that they look almost look placed.

Keywords that I ranked in the top 10 on have gone down to around 100, and my PR has gone from 4 to 2. All of this with nothing changing on my end and no subversive linking or any sort of advertising on my part.

Yea, some Google updating going on. My 4 month old blog went from PR0 to PR4 =D

Good for you, Mike! These changes in algorithm certainly have their downs. But it's been a cause for celebration for a lot of sites, too.

I guess I should go and see how my rankings have faired. Long term though, good content will pay off day after day.

:arrow: Don

I actually jumped ranks on keywords... now on page2

A lot of sites jumped since quite a few sank. Cause-and-effect, I guess.

i suppose so, now we moved again, however we still are holding on page 2 for "more website traffic"

I would still like to see you do the blog reviews John. Although Google may have changed their way of conducting search, you should not steer away any potential traffic other blogs can pull in for you the same way you can send traffic to them by exchanging reviews.

Although I never participated in your review-linkbacks (did link to couple of your posts though), I still thought you were getting plenty of inbound links for Google juice.

As someone pointed out, it would be better if there are many inbound links to different parts of your blog (e.g. different posts) instead of just the homepage. I think google differentiates between blogroll links (typically to the homepage) and within-post links (preferably to specific content with relevant anchor text, title, and alt-text).

Bottomline: content that brings back visitors and make them link to you always wins.

To be honest, John I used to love your blog few months back for blogging tips and blog tweaks but lately I have been seeing lot of 'Make Money Online' lists and ReviewMe reviews which I almost always marked as read in my RSS feeder. I hope this change in Google algorithm brings back the old John Chow that I loved to read. Just my $0.02.

Interesting turn of events. Almost a month ago the same thing happened to my blog. I don't have a clue what happened. I was in the top 10 results for a lot Aeroplan and Airmile, Nintendo DS Homebrew, and some photography searches as well. I had 150 uniques one day and the next I had 25. Not a single search engine result from Google.

Interesting thing is that even though my traffic was cut by so much, because I diversified my revenue sources, I am only going to be off by about 10% to 15% this month. My traffic from RSS readers and the other search engines seem to click fairly consistently and I have some non-fluctuating sources like PayU2Blog and PayPerPost.

I'm still trying to figure it out though. I'm still publishing as consistent as I can and will probably go back to submitting posts to article directories like I did just before Google decided to love me and leave me.

Oh yeah...and just prior to the drop off in traffic from Google (like a week before), my PageRank went from 1 to 2.

Curses and I just posted my review about and hour ago. I wonder if I made the cut?

I once read that if you rise to fast in a certain very populated keywords that you can get penalized in Google for it. 5-10 a day is good while 20,000 over night is bad.

It's not just PR and not just ranking on search results, the supplemental pages from my site have doubled :shock: and John pages from your site have also doubled in supplemental results :shock:

I think the algorithm is checking the number of backlinks for page/site and doing some drastic changes, shall know by tomorrow!

My sites have been all over the place also. Definitely some Algo changes.

Moe

BlastYourAss.com
"A Place to Make Money With No BS"

Don't kill your blog John :eek: !

I was actually expecting this sort of thing... Google doesn't like "google bombs" or other similar things where a ton of sites are linking to a certain site all using the same anchor text.

I would suggest that if you reactivate the review link exchange that you give people a choice of maybe 3-5 anchor texts that people can use when linking back to your blog John. You might also want to spread the link love and let people link to random blog posts instead of the front page of your blog.

I've mainly seen an increase in ranking on many of my sites in the last few days so it looks like the updated algorithm likes what I'm doing ;)

I wouldn't even limit it to 3-5. I'd leave it wide open with some vague instruction as to what you'd like the theme to be.

Then again, this could be the result of reciprocal nerfing as well...

I agree Marc. The more natural the better. If there's any pattern at all Google will eventually pick up on it, whether on their own, or from those who watchdog this sort of stuff and report it back to them.