Internet Marketing, Ninja Style

Subscribing to all sorts of internet marketing blogs can only get you so far. By and large, most of these blogs cover basic information, rather than getting into the highly advanced nitty-gritty of true internet marketing. As you can probably imagine, it gets pretty complex and remarkably difficult to understand. So, what is a lowly marketer to do? Ask a ninja, of course. No, not this ninja. We’re talking about the Internet Marketing Ninjas who ordered up this review. And these ninjas definitely know their stuff.

Meet the Internet Marketing Ninjas

Reputation is everything. You could be a perennial expert in search engine optimization, but if no one knows who you are, then you might as well be yelling into a brick wall. I’m sure you’ve come across plenty of Internet marketing sites run by virtual nobodies, claiming that they have unlocked the secrets of the web and they’re willing to share these with you (for a small fee, of course). This is not the case with Internet Marketing Ninjas. These guys know their stuff, and we know them.

Internet Marketing Ninjas is comprised of “over a dozen of the top industry experts” and they’re more than prepared to help you learn “about every aspect of Internet marketing, from affiliate marketing to link building to social media strategies.”

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Pictured above are Aaron Wall of SEO Book, Neil Patel of Pronet Advertising (and Quick Sprout), and Jeremy Shoemaker of Shoemoney. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The online shinobi also include guys like Bill Slawski, Jim Gilbert, Lee Odden, and more.

What Would A Ninja Do?

Reading through the blogs of Internet marketers is useful, of course, but that’s a lot of text to digest and a lot of archives to browse. When you sign up with Internet Marketing Ninjas, you gain access to a library of Internet marketing training videos and SEO tools. You can get a preview of some of these videos through the main page, but it’s only after you get membership that you can truly appreciate the power of these web-savvy ninjas.

For example, Andy Beal has three videos in the collection, providing over an hour of instruction about keyword selection, the long tail, latent semantic indexing, paid reviews, and so on. You can hit up his preview page to get a snippet of these videos.

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The embedded player functions in much the same way as Google Video or YouTube. It was a little confusing at first, though, because all I saw was a big black block. I waited for a bit, thinking that the page was still loading, but nothing happened. Then, I inadvertently hovered my mouse over the black box and the playback controls emerged near the bottom. It works, but I would have liked if the media controls were immediately visible.

For Serious Marketers Only

With so many big names involved in this project, it’s obvious that Internet Marketing Ninjas offers a highly attractive package. You’re learning from the world’s best Internet marketers and they’re letting you in on what led to their success. Beyond the instructional videos, you also get a healthy complement of SEO tools — though they don’t say exactly what these are — to help improve your search engine rankings.

Sounds great, right? Well, Internet Marketing Ninjas isn’t for noobies, nor is it for anyone on a tight budget. Clicking the “order now” button, I was hit by this:

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No, that’s not a typo. A one-year membership with Internet Marketing Ninjas costs nearly $3,000. That’s not a lifetime membership and (I think) you can’t download the videos for later viewing. All the videos are streamed from the site. I’d expect that more videos will be added as the site matures, so that’s why you’d want to keep your membership active… but don’t worry, the membership is on auto-renew.

Oh, and before you get any funny ideas, read this part of the terms and conditions

Individuals that are in any way associated with, employed by, agents of, working for, or affiliated with Internet search engines or search engine-affiliated organizations may not register to use this site, and may not use, view, or otherwise take advantage of any information provided to members of this site, including videos, tools, or any other material provided to members.

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Non-Ninjas Need Not Apply

The Internet Marketing Ninjas landing page is pretty plain. There really aren’t any “sections” for you to enjoy other than the bios and their accompanying preview videos. That said, I appreciate this design over the more conventional one-page sales letters that we usually see. I guess these ninjas know what they’re doing.

And they’d better know what they’re doing if they plan on charging nearly three grand every year.

Click Here to Sign Up With Internet Marketing Ninjas


134 thoughts on “Internet Marketing, Ninja Style”

  1. John you should start a site like that and charge $2,000. That’d be a good deal. Imagine your monthly income stats if you did that.

    1. Collin LaHay says:

      Haha, most couldn’t afford it.

      You could spend $3000 marketing your website and get far better results than watching hours of pre-recorded videos in my opinion.

      Heck, you could get a Johnchow review every two months and still have money leftover. =P

      1. While 3k sounds a bit steep I bet if you actually follow the advice of these Ninjas you’d make that back and then some.. These guys are making solid coin, they know how to get you making money with affiliate programs and a whole bunch of other things..

        Like Michael mentioned in the review, this is not for noobs..

        1. Alan Johnson says:

          It all depends on the tools you will have at your disposal as well as on the information which will be made available (even if, personally, I believe in offering quality advice for free rather than having people pay for it).

          Alan Johnson

      2. I’d have to agree with that. $3,000 spent on just buying 125 x 125 ads one each of these ninja’s blogs would bring some serious traffic.

        1. Mad Ape says:

          While I agree with you that buying ads is far better than spending 3K on a money grab, getting the traffic is one thing…developing a loyal following is another.

          That part is up to you. You need to develop a good site, with good content. Uniqueness is a key. Carve out a niche.

          The Mad Ape

          1. Yes, you can’t spend $3,000 on ads and then send the traffic to a cheesy site. That certainly won’t work.

      3. Shaun Carter says:

        I agree about the affordability. Most people who can afford to shell out $3,000 a year for the training videos is doing pretty well already.

        1. Alan Johnson says:

          It all depends on how that membership helps you income-wise. If you spend $3k and end up earning 10x times that much as a result of using their tools in one year, your investment was a wise one. If you make less than $3k it was not, it’s as simple as that.

          Alan Johnson

      4. Will says:

        I won’t be surprised if people do that over this 😯 I mean… how useful can this information be? I’m pretty sure anything they tell us can be found on the web somewhere right? ❓

      5. While I’m in no way affiliated with the ninja’s, I did review the same product recently on my blog and I think the way to look at it is this. This is like having a major search engine marketing/internet marketing conference come to you. Granted, you don’t get the same networking opportunities, but you do get year long access to a ton of tools as well.

        1. Mad Ape says:

          Dude
          I reviewed them too. This venture is nothing but a huge money grab. It sucks up the wazoo. For $3000/year you should expect and receive professionally produced videos. This site is as unprofessional as they come. The production sucks so bad that I convinced that they have a typo in their pricing.

          Further, based on watching every promo clip, the content sucks. There is no other way to put it. All of what they talk about is available for free and in some cases right off of their business blogs.

          Anyone buying this program is a SUCKER!

          The Mad Ape

    2. David Chew says:

      Probably it will be a good idea. πŸ˜€

  2. Rakesh says:

    Hi John. Just wanted to bring a small typo to your notice..Shoemoney’s name has been mispelled..overall a good post.

    1. Shame it was Mr. Kwan because, John wouldn’t misspell ShoeMoney, since, he wears his t-shirts alot. πŸ™‚

  3. Pam Hoffman says:

    Hey Michael!

    Would you say the $3k is worth it for what you saw?

    Do they offer anything like a $1, 30-day trial or anything?

    Is the material something you could actually get thru in a year or faster (slower)?

    It’s a fascinating service and if you could propel yourself forward, it might be worth the $3k!

    Pam Hoffman
    http://seminarlist.blogspot.com

    p.s. you quoted…

    “Individuals that are in any way associated with, employed by, agents of, working for, or affiliated with Internet search engines or search engine-affiliated organizations may not register to use this site, and may not use, view, or otherwise take advantage of any information provided to members of this site, including videos, tools, or any other material provided to members.”

    why do they put that in to their TOS? do you know?

    1. Collin LaHay says:

      I am assuming that it is so the search engines don’t penalize their sites/techniques (blackhat?).

      1. I don’t think it has to do with white hat or black hat. Why in the world would you want the search engines to know what you do to rank better?

    2. ATV Style says:

      To cover future hiney. They’re making promises, search engine companies crack the whip every once in a while when promises aren’t fulfilled. False advertising is not legal in any state and search engine company eployees know jive when they see it.

      Better safe than sorry. At 3000.00 a pop it would only take 333 members to make a class action suit worth a cool mil+

      1. ATV Style says:

        And what colin said, it’s like the stock market, not everyone can get rich… it takes people losing money for others to make it.

        1. David Chew says:

          You can get rich if you know the technique and go for it. πŸ™‚

      2. I don’t think it has anything to do with a possible lawsuit. They don’t say that you’ll get rich by watching the videos or anything like that, they are just teaching strategies and methods. People understand that search engines change and something that was working before won’t necessarily work now. What advertising do you think would be false? πŸ™„

        1. Alan Johnson says:

          As long as they don’t make bogus promises about their product, a lawsuit is definitely out of the question.

          Alan Johnson

        2. Mad Ape says:

          That you are getting value or your money. That is a crock of shit!

          The Mad Ape

    3. Mad Ape says:

      Probably because they will be talking about how to pull off some search engine tricks…you know exploit flaws in the system to ones advantage.

      The Mad Ape

  4. mariam says:

    Psst, I think it’s spelled Jeremy Schoemaker.

    1. Neil Duckett says:

      Grammar Ninja. πŸ˜‰

  5. I’ll save myself $3,000 per year and read Shoemoney’s, Chow’s an Cow’s blogs, I think there’s enough there to get most people on the right track to earnings some serious cash.

    1. David Chew says:

      I probably agree with that. Both are giving excellent advice. :mrgreen:

    2. Alan Johnson says:

      I agree 100% that there is no shortage of great information on the Web, and that you can take advantage of it for free. How you use it and how you play the trial&error game is entirely up to you.

      Alan Johnson

  6. All the information is available freely on the web for everyone to read. People just look for the silver bullet.

    1. Ribancos says:

      Looking at your site, something tells me you haven’t learn much from this free “information” πŸ˜†

      1. Mad Ape says:

        Some tells me that you are an arrogant prick. That comment was uncalled for.

        The Mad Ape

    2. You are exactly right. Just read John Chow’s blog and save $3,000.

      1. Lol you’ve got a little something on your nose there, mate.

        John doesn’t talk much at all about SEO, PPC, or even affiliate marketing for that matter. Half the stuff posted here is off topic and will have no benefit to your site or blog at all.

        1. I found this here:
          http://www.johnchow.com/the-super-affiliates-guide-to-ppc-marketing/
          which led me to a good ppc guide.

          Good article on effective advertising:
          http://www.johnchow.com/how-to-determine-the-effectiveness-of-your-advertising-campaign/

          I downloaded John’s ebook here:
          http://www.johnchow.com/make-money-online-may-2007/

          Found a good article on bringing your blog to the next level:
          http://www.johnchow.com/the-art-of-the-ramp/

          Read a good post on income vs traffic:
          http://www.johnchow.com/getting-traffic-is-half-the-battle/

          These are all good on topic posts. That will be $500, I’ll send you my PayPal email address.

        2. Guess you’ve not been reading this blog long enough πŸ˜›

          Check back in the archives :mrgreen:

  7. Dan Root says:

    It will be interesting to see how successful this becomes at a price like that. Wow.

  8. Todays Gripe says:

    I’d have to agree with most of the comments so far. The money can be better spent on campaigns to promote your site. This type of education seems too technical for most bloggers.

  9. Will says:

    Wow that’s almost as much as college tuition 😳

    1. If you were going to spend the money on college or the Internet Marketing Ninja’s training then I would say this program is probably worth it. Hmm, get exactly what you need to earn probaly $200K in a year for $3K or spend 4 years in college and come out with a $100K debt and no job. In that case, the choice is obvious.

      1. Are you saying you can get the same education from this program as you can from college? Or are you saying you can get the same education from this program as you can from a $3K a year college? Because I would agree with the later.

        1. Sorry I meant to say I would agree with neither.

          A college degree is worth way more in face value than anything you can buy on the internet.

  10. Todays Gripe says:

    I’d have to agree with most of the comments in that I’d rather spend $3000 to promote my site directly than to pay to learn how to do it.

    1. Alan Johnson says:

      It depends on the funds you have at your disposal. If $3k represents your entire budget then there are definitely better things to do with your money.

      Alan Johnson

  11. ATV Style says:

    Quick, someone give 50 bucks to whichever Ninja can slice the second set of keywords and second set of descriptions from johnchow.com! They’re killing me to still see when I snoop around! 😳

    About the ninjas – they don’t need to know what they’re doing, they just need to “appear” to know what they’re doing. Thats in marketing 101, section two paragraph 4 right before “a fool and his money…” no offense intended of course.

    Will the money train that is internet ever slow down?

  12. Pretty expensive, hey. Well, I would signup if all my sites are doing well. Too bad, still noob. πŸ™„

  13. David Chew says:

    Ninja style, sound like sneaking around some people properties and take money from their house with ease.

  14. ATV Style says:

    A final thought – these guys, whom I am not putting down in any way, should have done like Brett Tabke and build up the sites rep a little before going for the quick 2995.00 in my opinion. It feels like a cheap tactic as it stands (and not because internet didn’t exist in the era of Ninja’s). Even Brett stops at 89.95 for webmasterworld.com and even then you don’t HAVE to subscribe to read most of the stuff.

    I’d wager that 99.5% of the video stuff on the ninja site is covered on http://www.Webmasterworld.com with very little digging. If you don’t find what you want send Martinibuster a quick message and he’ll hook you up on your topic of choice. I hope i’m not placing a bullseye on my own back from my peers for speaking my mind here, but it is what it is.

    1. Neil Duckett says:

      I’d probably make sure the site returned a pretty good exact match search on “Internet Marketing” in Google before i rolled it out too. I stopped looking after i’d gone through the first 10 pages.

      Just my 2 cents though.

    2. Jason says:

      There’s a point where I view someone as a scam artist. $3,000 a year is that point. Sure, it’s not illegal, but hopefully I’m not the only one who would feel bad about taking someone’s entire savings account for my own greed. If what they have is truly worth $3,000 a year, then great…but for some reason, I find that extremely hard to believe.

      1. Jason says:

        Well at least they’re offering a money back guarantee (including travel cost) if you don’t make your money back in 6 months. Anyone who chooses to take part, let us know what happens πŸ˜€

        1. Jason says:

          For the Elite Retreat that is…..according to Cow’s blog.

  15. If you learn social media marketing (an social market research) then you’ll never need to join a coaching program… Your market will tell you what to sell it… All top-level respected information is being disseminated freely … This blog is a prime example.

    Learn from those that are already where you want to be and emulate them… Subscribe to their feeds… If you just found a well respected blog, go back to the beginning and read / implement everything… & don’t forget your map (your process map).

    Charles Heflin.com

    1. Mad Ape says:

      While I agree with what you say, one still needs to carve out a niche and be different from the rest. Following your guidelines while doing something different is a key to success.

      From what I can see here is where I see true success in the blogging world right now:

      1) Develop an unique idea that can be monetized and adds benefit blogs, blog owners, blog readers.

      2) Develop delivery system to implement idea…a widget for example.

      3) Develop a marketing strategy that is viral in nature – a good affiliate program that is both deep and wide in its matrix.

      4) Take it public or sell out to Google for cash and stock options.

      5) Buy an island somewhere warm and retire.

      The Mad Ape

  16. ATV Style says:

    Ugh, for 3 grand you wouldn’t expect 175 coding errors on the index page alone. πŸ™

    1. Mad Ape says:

      πŸ™‚

      Now that is funny!

      The Mad Ape

      1. They are not selling valid code, they are selling marketing.

        And I doubt marketers are good coders.

        1. Mad Ape says:

          Well with the money being charged they should have hired a good coder. While at it they should have hired a good producer too. The delivery of the content is just sad!

          The Mad Ape

  17. Jason says:

    Sorry, but $3,000 a year for some videos is ridiculous. The sad thing is, there are people who will pay it, and regret it later. Go to Barnes & Nobles and grab yourself a few books, and a coffee. Then subscribe to a few RSS feeds for free.

    1. First of all, it’s not just for some videos. You also get access to the arsenal of tools that for whatever reason Michael hardly mentioned.

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  19. Mike Huang says:

    $3000 to become a Ninja…no thanks, I’ll self-teach myself πŸ™‚

    -Mike

  20. $3000 is outrages! Wonder how many people will take up this membership subscription.

    1. Liviu Pantea says:

      It`s really a lot of money bot consider like this, if their content is really good and you can use it to make money and if you make 300$/month you are in advantage. πŸ˜€

  21. jamezu says:

    Hmm… $3000…. I’ll buy something else hehe.. I’ll spend it on food and put it in my blog lolz

  22. Chad says:

    Simply not worth it. As others have said, you can probably learn just as much from books and RSS feeds which cause hardly a fraction of the cost…and then you can spend your bling on actual marketing.

  23. MizHizzyFitz says:

    If Arron Wall puts as much effort into this project as he did his SEO book and blog, this program will rock. All three bloggers have reputations to protect, so I can’t imagine they would do a poor job or take advantage of anyone.
    That said, I think the price is steep…even so, …If I had it I would gladly pay it.
    As to the Ninja logo, he looks more like a terrorist to me. 😈

  24. krazl says:

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    How to kill online earning website that earn money using affiliates ads
    http://www.krazl.com/blog/?p=52

    I know quite offensive to many bloggers but this depends on you to publish or not.

    krazl
    http://www.krazl.com

    1. Mad Ape says:

      Exactly what does this have to do with what is being discussed? You sir are a spam whore!

      The Mad Ape

    2. Krazl,

      After looking at your blog, you should probably invest in this Ninja package to learn how to do affiliate marketing properly. Your blog stinketh.

  25. bloggernoob says:

    am i the only sane one here??? what a waste of money. like it’ll really help you make money? horse dung! it’ll make those guys rich if they get enough suckers. and i thought a review on this blog was a waste of money. ninja takes the cake. if this post gets people to shell over 3 grand…then readers of this blog are way way stupider then i thought.

    1. You think they’d at least have a decent web site to sell their $3,000 package.

    2. First of all, coming from someone with the name of Bloggernoob, I’m sorry but I’m going to have to go with the likes of Shoemoney, Aaron Wall, Andy Beal and the rest on this one. These people have made their livings online and most very profitably. If you don’t think there’s valuable information to learn from them, then you’re going to be a noob your whole life.

      1. bloggernoob says:

        you’re going to diss me cause of my domain name? wow. im not selling anything. did i ask you to buy my ebook or video? the sad thing is, you won’t buy that program but you support it. you’re not making money off of it but you support it. you’re probably just kissing high profile arse.

      2. Jason says:

        Why are you trying to justify a $3,000 price tag? Nobody is claiming that the information isn’t valuable. Obviously they are all successful, and we can all learn a thing or two from them. The real question is, is $3,000 the value of it? I’d be willing to bet that all the information they give you can be found for free just as easily. If I was Bill Gates, would you buy a bottle of tap water from me for $500? Sure, water is of value, but I’ll use the sink. As for the tools that you listed on your blog, I’m using most of those features now…and I don’t pay a dime.

  26. I think many people would think that there are so many other things to do with $3000 😐 . If I had that much to spend I think it would be going on driving traffic. Although if your a dot com mogul then this probably is going to take you to another level if you can afford it! πŸ˜‰

  27. Contest Beat says:

    Gimmie a case study

  28. Neil Duckett says:

    Looks like the Ninja`s should do some research on pricing a product to the demographic in which you pitch. “Experts” hey …. X is and unknown quantity and a spurt is a drip under pressure.

    1. Kind of an oxymoron here, If we could afford a $3,000 program, we wouldn’t need it.

      1. Completely agree.

        But I guess this could be for rich people who are just getting into the internet and like to spend money.

    2. Alan Johnson says:

      Even though I believe in offering information for free, this project is most likely a serious one considering the people who are behind it.

      Alan Johnson

      1. Mad Ape says:

        BS. These guys are whoring themselves for the sake of a buck. Their reputations will take a hit for this cheap crap that they are pimping!

        The Mad Ape

        1. Alan Johnson says:

          Shoemoney for example is raking in over $1m on a monthly basis from affiliate marketing. Do you think that he would risk his reputation just for the sake of making a quick buck?

          Alan Johnson

          1. Agreed. I don’t think half of the people involved in this, actually i’d say all of the would risk their reputation for a small slice each.

          2. Alan Johnson says:

            If they wouldn’t have believed in this project they would have indeed stayed away. In the end, it all boils down to your budget, if $3k is an amount you are willing to spend, it’s fine, as long as it doesn’t represent your entire budget.

            Alan Johnson

  29. Phil says:

    I think they will do very well. TheyΒ΄ll have lots of subscriptions.
    This is a product for big companies. For a big company 3k is nothing. With this (nice) review they are targeting the wrong audience. A small Marketing mistake. ThatΒ΄s all. Or maybe not. DonΒ΄t forget. They are the Internet Marketing NinjaΒ΄s. πŸ˜‰

  30. CatherineL says:

    I wouldn’t buy this product. One of the great rules of sales is risk reversal. It’s easier to sell an item if you reverse the risk to the customer – eg. give them a free trial or return guarantee if they’re not satisfied.

    And while this product has a ten day trial, it clearly states in the terms and conditions that anyone who has had a free ten day trial may not return the product. This sets off alarm bells for me right away. What if the trial is ok, but the rest of the product is not so great? A year is a long time. Are they not confident enough in their own product that people will want to keep it once they’ve signed up to the full version?

  31. Simple Mindz says:

    I agree with the above noter. If I had an “extra” 3 thou laying around, I don’t think I would be worried about buying a program that you can’t even “keep” for later use!

  32. No money fo' you! says:

    hahaha

    Anyone who pays for this 3,000 junk should really think twice about life.

  33. Benny Ong says:

    Their demographic surely does not include me. I have a million dollar idea. Any one want to come up with a competing product and call it Internet Samurai? :mrgreen:

    1. You get several people who have made millions teaching it and you probably do have a million dollar idea. Good luck finding that though.

  34. I also agree that is an outrages price. But pricing has a lot to do with pricing I think they assume people will think ‘if they’re charging that much, it must be something special’ when it’s probably info you could learn yourself anyway.
    Nonetheless I still think they obviously would give you some very useful info but not worth $3,000.
    As already stated though this isn’t for newbies, they’re obviously targeting already experienced marketers who are making some cash, but not quite at the ‘elite’ level. I think it’s meant to pose as an in between market course, not for newbies but not for experts.

    1. Alan Johnson says:

      It all boils down to your ROI, in other words, if you end up increasing your income with over $3k for the year as a result of the tools they are putting at your disposal then you’ve made a good investment.

      Alan Johnson

  35. typo corrections > *outrageous… *perception (not pricing). πŸ™‚

  36. I want to know if there is an affiliate program offering like 10% or so.

  37. After reading everyone’s comments, I am half tempted to buy it just to see if it is really worth it. I doubt it is, but curiosity is starting to get the best of me.

    1. ebookbum says:

      Do it Do it and give us a review after all i’m just a struggling bum!

  38. ebookbum says:

    This pricing is luuuuuudicrous! They better make somebody rich!!!!

    1. Alan Johnson says:

      How you use the tools and information they are offering is entirely up to you, there can never be guarantees of getting rich as a result of purchasing a certain product.

      Alan Johnson

      1. That’s exactly my point. A lot of times what you get out of courses like this is determined by what you put into it. If you pay $3k for something, you better believe you’re going to make sure you get your $3k worth of value out of it. Hell now I might have to buy the darn package just to shut a couple of these other commenters up lol.

  39. whydowork says:

    Do experienced marketers not know that the most successful business models in modern internet tiimes giving something away for free and use critical mass to make money in other ways (a la Google, Facebook etc.)?

    $3,000 is insane, in the membrane. πŸ˜†

    1. Alan Johnson says:

      Giving quality information away for free is the business model I have chosen as well but, of course, that doesn’t mean that it is the only one and their decision of charging $3k yearly for their membership should be respected.

      Alan Johnson

  40. For crying out loud after reading most of these comments its no wonder John has such a loyal following… half of you are idiots!

    Look, the people involved in these videos are all experts at what they do. You saw Neil’s profile here with the black AmEx card, you know that Shoe rakes it in hand over fist. Aaron Wall is one of the best SEO minds there is.

    Now, the $3k is a bit steep. However, just because you’re too cheap to pay it, doesn’t mean there won’t be a ton of people that purchase it. Ever heard of a program called StomperNet? It was like $900 a month to be in that and they sold out all of their spots. This program works out to $250 a month, I can guarantee you with the people involved it will be a success.

    As for the value, if you learn ONE thing that helps you increase your income by $250 a month, it will pay for itself. Plus, it includes the massive set of tools that Michael hardly mentioned.

    “Beyond the instructional videos, you also get a healthy complement of SEO tools β€” though they don’t say exactly what these are β€” to help improve your search engine rankings.”

    I’m not sure if you wrote this review before they listed out all the tools that they provide but I can tell you that I used a few of these tools on a daily basis and now that they are no longer free, I’m considering purchasing the program just to get access to those back.

    Obviously this isn’t for everyone but for crying out loud, you people are attacking it like these are a bunch of snake oil salesmen. If you don’t want to buy it, that’s fine, don’t but don’t start questioning the leaders of the industry for selling their expertise.

    1. Well, there you go, I’m sure that should stir a few people up.

    2. Mad Ape says:

      Dude,
      Look at the sample videos. For $3000.00 I would expect a Hollywood production. They should have a multi-million dollar budget behind this. Instead we are left with crap production that delivers re-hashed info.

      I don’t care about how much money they made in the past. They are now living of their past glory and attempting a money grab.

      Finally, are you saying that 50% of JohnChow.com readers are idiots? I disagree with that assessment but anyone paying three grand per year for that garbage is one!

      The Mad Ape

      1. Ok, honestly, you don’t believe that these guys are living off their past glory do you? Hell Shoemoney just recently built AuctionAds and sold it off! Now he’s working on an MMA site that is bound to make a bundle. I’ll agree with you that the production isn’t the best I’ve ever seen but I think you’re exaggerating that a bit. Plus you haven’t even mentioned the access to 20+ tools. Those I can certainly vouch for (having used some of them on a daily basis while they were free to the public) and they’re top notch.

    3. bloggernoob says:

      you’d think that they’re paying you to be so religious about shoe and whoever else is doing the videos. you must really love them. you’re like their puppy. but they don’t feed u. maybe u should find another master.

      1. Lol I’m not religious at all but you better believe I value their input. Why? Because they do what they’re teaching about. If all this information is already out there and everyone knows it, then why are you all still here reading John’s blog?

        I’m not saying that any of these people can do no wrong or that the course would be worth it for everyone. However, the tone of the comments on this post seem to suggest that these guys are hacks and that’s simply not the case. You’d think with all the information they share on their blogs for free, they’d have at least earned some respect.

  41. justin says:

    This review is worth $450 as internet marketing ninjas are going to make that money back for sure. Just one signup and they get return on investment as well.
    I do beleive that cost of membership is high but imagine searching the net for all those tips and tricks and spending not hours but days and days. If you just spend one month full time searching for information etc it will more than your 250man hours. If your time is for example just worth $12 per hour you will have spent $3000 any way.

    1. That’s another good way to look at it. Even if all this information were available elsewhere, how much time would you spend finding it, gathering it, and reading it? Then consider what your time is worth and you’ll probably be pretty close to the $3k that the program costs. Also in this, consider the time you’ll save by using all of these tools.

    2. rodel says:

      experience counts… tips and tricks are useless without the whole process intact in your head.. thats one thing im sure off..

      as an example.. bpo’s are fun of rapid advancement.. but maturity coupled with experience in handling people and team really counts..

  42. Alan Johnson says:

    My 2 cents: with “guru-style” products which promise to teach you how to get rich overnight, the people behind them are just making false claims and promises. In other words, they’re simply pretending to be what they’re not.

    In this case, you have people such as Jeremy (who is earning over $1m per month from affiliate marketing), Neil Patel, Andy Beal or Aaron Wall who are definitely the real thing. This can tell you a lot about the quality of the product.

    It is clearly not something entry-level, if you will, but just because it is expensive doesn’t mean that it doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.

    Alan Johnson

  43. i Business says:

    Price is not expensive..I went to PPC Seminar last Nov. and Super Affiliators have 3-6month mentor program which cost around $2k-$3k, just amazed people line up to pay $3k on spot and people asking to increase member # so they could get in..Very Quick $200k income. People is willing to pay up if you can come up with nice Sales pitch.

    1. That is why I am thinking about taking all the knowledge in my head and putting something out there like this. If I get one person to pay $3K, I will be set.

    2. Alan Johnson says:

      Sure, if you are a successful entrepreneur, as is the case with the people behind this project, people are always willing to pay for your advice and hope that it can help them make the fee pay for itself.

      Alan Johnson

  44. David Chew says:

    People just pay for the course since that it is useful and if they learn something from it. Anyway i will be having a free review contest, anyone who is interested can visit my blog http://celhub.blogspot.com

    1. Alan Johnson says:

      People pay for a certain course or any kind of product, for that matter, if they believe that it can be useful, there is no way of being 100% certain. In this case, given the fact that these people have been around the block for quite a while, there will definitely be demand for the $3k membership, even if it doesn’t seem that way.

      Alan Johnson

  45. KNau says:

    Still, there are no “secrets” to be had. It’s the belief in these things (super secret SEO handshake) that make people willing to pay through the nose for information that is freely available on-line. And I guarantee you, every single piece of advice they offer is freely available elsewhere.

    At best, their info will save you time on research, which isn’t insignificant. Figure if you have a basic grownup job in North America you’ve got to be earning at least $3,000 a month. (the value of your time). If their service saves you a month or two of trial and error then it’s money well-spent.

    Just make sure you’re buying it because it saves you time (very important) not because you believe in SEO fairies and magical PageRank elves.

    Also, the Terms of Service are a joke – deliberately written to encourage the “super secret” mentality. They aren’t allowed to ban employees of Google nor do they have any recourse if one did. It’s not legally enforceable.

    1. Um, why exactly do you think you can’t ban whomever they please? Last I checked you can deny service to anyone you want.

    2. Alan Johnson says:

      It may be something they’ve decided to do for marketing purposes, the possibility can’t be ruled out, but it is their right to be selective when it comes to their customers.

      Alan Johnson

  46. rodel says:

    quite expensive for noobs but worth the investment i guess.. but one thing is certain.. there’s no shortcut to success nor expedite it and.. everything still depends with the student knowing that these mentors are topnotch.

    but sometimes, it’s nice to learn things the way we wanted it..some things are learned the hardway..and thr might be tricks along the way that these guys haven’t encountered yet.. who knows? one thing is certain, things in the web moves so fast and what they might be teach’n us is just an iota of what a blogger or an entrepreneur needs to know. as one guy highlighted, basics are can be found in the internet.. just mix and match because that’s the only way you can go there.. and investment plays a big part to drive traffic.. if you want to get the traffic.. and the mileage.. invest!..

  47. Eric says:

    hahaha…

    If anyone actually buys this, contact me… I’ve got a bridge for sale…

    1. I won’t have any way of knowing for sure but I’d bet they get quite a few buyers.

  48. This is something, i don’t actually need but if i was new to internet marketing it could be a consideration.

    Looking at a few of the previews they look interesting, although for $3000 for a years membership it questions is this service really worth it? When a newbie could spend less and pick up this information watching the previews, researching the stuff mentioned on the categories and reading forums.

    1. Alan Johnson says:

      If you are running a fairly large company, want to establish an online presence and need to train your staff, I’d day that the $3k would be money well spent.

      Alan Johnson

  49. Thanks for sharing this… πŸ™‚

  50. I have money to invest this is the right way to start online buisness.

  51. I think this is great! the $3K tells me that I can expect quality and already tested solutions!
    And, when the price is at this level TMN knows they’re handling with serious people. Because you’re not infesting these kind of money without putting effort to it!

    But, I understand $3K is more money to some of you! That’s because the economy is a little different from country to country…

    $250 is not even a days work here in Northern Europe! And that’s what it cost a month….

    And, I don’t think anyone of us can say it’s not worth the money before we’ve tried it!!

  52. Chris says:

    i felt sorry for the guys because of there faulty html template.
    just send them a corrected one.
    i don’t think they will answer πŸ˜€

  53. Zee says:

    these guys should take their package and shove it up their ass. who is going to pay 3k. I bet they have a membership of zero.

    1. “These guys” are pretty top notch. Do you know who you’re talking about?

  54. Sure it costs a lot, but I think it’s probably worth the money if you’re serious. They’re some of the best marketers and I’d feel comfortable giving them the money.

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