Internet Marketing, Ninja Style
Subscribing to all sorts of internet marketing blogs can only get you so far. By and large, most of these blogs cover basic information, rather than getting into the highly advanced nitty-gritty of true internet marketing. As you can probably imagine, it gets pretty complex and remarkably difficult to understand. So, what is a lowly marketer to do? Ask a ninja, of course. No, not this ninja. We’re talking about the Internet Marketing Ninjas who ordered up this review. And these ninjas definitely know their stuff.
Meet the Internet Marketing Ninjas
Reputation is everything. You could be a perennial expert in search engine optimization, but if no one knows who you are, then you might as well be yelling into a brick wall. I’m sure you’ve come across plenty of Internet marketing sites run by virtual nobodies, claiming that they have unlocked the secrets of the web and they’re willing to share these with you (for a small fee, of course). This is not the case with Internet Marketing Ninjas. These guys know their stuff, and we know them.
Internet Marketing Ninjas is comprised of “over a dozen of the top industry experts” and they’re more than prepared to help you learn “about every aspect of Internet marketing, from affiliate marketing to link building to social media strategies.”
Pictured above are Aaron Wall of SEO Book, Neil Patel of Pronet Advertising (and Quick Sprout), and Jeremy Shoemaker of Shoemoney. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The online shinobi also include guys like Bill Slawski, Jim Gilbert, Lee Odden, and more.
What Would A Ninja Do?
Reading through the blogs of Internet marketers is useful, of course, but that’s a lot of text to digest and a lot of archives to browse. When you sign up with Internet Marketing Ninjas, you gain access to a library of Internet marketing training videos and SEO tools. You can get a preview of some of these videos through the main page, but it’s only after you get membership that you can truly appreciate the power of these web-savvy ninjas.
For example, Andy Beal has three videos in the collection, providing over an hour of instruction about keyword selection, the long tail, latent semantic indexing, paid reviews, and so on. You can hit up his preview page to get a snippet of these videos.
The embedded player functions in much the same way as Google Video or YouTube. It was a little confusing at first, though, because all I saw was a big black block. I waited for a bit, thinking that the page was still loading, but nothing happened. Then, I inadvertently hovered my mouse over the black box and the playback controls emerged near the bottom. It works, but I would have liked if the media controls were immediately visible.
For Serious Marketers Only
With so many big names involved in this project, it’s obvious that Internet Marketing Ninjas offers a highly attractive package. You’re learning from the world’s best Internet marketers and they’re letting you in on what led to their success. Beyond the instructional videos, you also get a healthy complement of SEO tools — though they don’t say exactly what these are — to help improve your search engine rankings.
Sounds great, right? Well, Internet Marketing Ninjas isn’t for noobies, nor is it for anyone on a tight budget. Clicking the “order now” button, I was hit by this:
No, that’s not a typo. A one-year membership with Internet Marketing Ninjas costs nearly $3,000. That’s not a lifetime membership and (I think) you can’t download the videos for later viewing. All the videos are streamed from the site. I’d expect that more videos will be added as the site matures, so that’s why you’d want to keep your membership active… but don’t worry, the membership is on auto-renew.
Oh, and before you get any funny ideas, read this part of the terms and conditions
Individuals that are in any way associated with, employed by, agents of, working for, or affiliated with Internet search engines or search engine-affiliated organizations may not register to use this site, and may not use, view, or otherwise take advantage of any information provided to members of this site, including videos, tools, or any other material provided to members.
Non-Ninjas Need Not Apply
The Internet Marketing Ninjas landing page is pretty plain. There really aren’t any “sections” for you to enjoy other than the bios and their accompanying preview videos. That said, I appreciate this design over the more conventional one-page sales letters that we usually see. I guess these ninjas know what they’re doing.
And they’d better know what they’re doing if they plan on charging nearly three grand every year.
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John you should start a site like that and charge $2,000. That’d be a good deal. Imagine your monthly income stats if you did that.
Reply to this commentHaha, most couldn’t afford it.
You could spend $3000 marketing your website and get far better results than watching hours of pre-recorded videos in my opinion.
Heck, you could get a Johnchow review every two months and still have money leftover. =P
Reply to this commentWhile 3k sounds a bit steep I bet if you actually follow the advice of these Ninjas you’d make that back and then some.. These guys are making solid coin, they know how to get you making money with affiliate programs and a whole bunch of other things..
Like Michael mentioned in the review, this is not for noobs..
Reply to this commentIt all depends on the tools you will have at your disposal as well as on the information which will be made available (even if, personally, I believe in offering quality advice for free rather than having people pay for it).
Alan Johnson
Reply to this commentI’d have to agree with that. $3,000 spent on just buying 125 x 125 ads one each of these ninja’s blogs would bring some serious traffic.
Reply to this commentWhile I agree with you that buying ads is far better than spending 3K on a money grab, getting the traffic is one thing…developing a loyal following is another.
That part is up to you. You need to develop a good site, with good content. Uniqueness is a key. Carve out a niche.
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentYes, you can’t spend $3,000 on ads and then send the traffic to a cheesy site. That certainly won’t work.
Reply to this commentI agree about the affordability. Most people who can afford to shell out $3,000 a year for the training videos is doing pretty well already.
Reply to this commentIt all depends on how that membership helps you income-wise. If you spend $3k and end up earning 10x times that much as a result of using their tools in one year, your investment was a wise one. If you make less than $3k it was not, it’s as simple as that.
Alan Johnson
Reply to this commentI won’t be surprised if people do that over this
I mean… how useful can this information be? I’m pretty sure anything they tell us can be found on the web somewhere right? 
Reply to this commentWhile I’m in no way affiliated with the ninja’s, I did review the same product recently on my blog and I think the way to look at it is this. This is like having a major search engine marketing/internet marketing conference come to you. Granted, you don’t get the same networking opportunities, but you do get year long access to a ton of tools as well.
Reply to this commentDude
I reviewed them too. This venture is nothing but a huge money grab. It sucks up the wazoo. For $3000/year you should expect and receive professionally produced videos. This site is as unprofessional as they come. The production sucks so bad that I convinced that they have a typo in their pricing.
Further, based on watching every promo clip, the content sucks. There is no other way to put it. All of what they talk about is available for free and in some cases right off of their business blogs.
Anyone buying this program is a SUCKER!
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentProbably it will be a good idea.
Reply to this commentHi John. Just wanted to bring a small typo to your notice..Shoemoney’s name has been mispelled..overall a good post.
Reply to this commentShame it was Mr. Kwan because, John wouldn’t misspell ShoeMoney, since, he wears his t-shirts alot.
Reply to this commentHey Michael!
Would you say the $3k is worth it for what you saw?
Do they offer anything like a $1, 30-day trial or anything?
Is the material something you could actually get thru in a year or faster (slower)?
It’s a fascinating service and if you could propel yourself forward, it might be worth the $3k!
Pam Hoffman
http://seminarlist.blogspot.com
p.s. you quoted…
“Individuals that are in any way associated with, employed by, agents of, working for, or affiliated with Internet search engines or search engine-affiliated organizations may not register to use this site, and may not use, view, or otherwise take advantage of any information provided to members of this site, including videos, tools, or any other material provided to members.”
why do they put that in to their TOS? do you know?
Reply to this commentI am assuming that it is so the search engines don’t penalize their sites/techniques (blackhat?).
Reply to this commentI don’t think it has to do with white hat or black hat. Why in the world would you want the search engines to know what you do to rank better?
Reply to this commentTo cover future hiney. They’re making promises, search engine companies crack the whip every once in a while when promises aren’t fulfilled. False advertising is not legal in any state and search engine company eployees know jive when they see it.
Better safe than sorry. At 3000.00 a pop it would only take 333 members to make a class action suit worth a cool mil+
Reply to this commentAnd what colin said, it’s like the stock market, not everyone can get rich… it takes people losing money for others to make it.
Reply to this commentYou can get rich if you know the technique and go for it.
Reply to this commentI don’t think it has anything to do with a possible lawsuit. They don’t say that you’ll get rich by watching the videos or anything like that, they are just teaching strategies and methods. People understand that search engines change and something that was working before won’t necessarily work now. What advertising do you think would be false?
Reply to this commentAs long as they don’t make bogus promises about their product, a lawsuit is definitely out of the question.
Alan Johnson
Reply to this commentThat you are getting value or your money. That is a crock of shit!
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentProbably because they will be talking about how to pull off some search engine tricks…you know exploit flaws in the system to ones advantage.
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentPsst, I think it’s spelled Jeremy Schoemaker.
Reply to this commentGrammar Ninja.
Reply to this commentI’ll save myself $3,000 per year and read Shoemoney’s, Chow’s an Cow’s blogs, I think there’s enough there to get most people on the right track to earnings some serious cash.
Reply to this commentI probably agree with that. Both are giving excellent advice.
Reply to this commentI agree 100% that there is no shortage of great information on the Web, and that you can take advantage of it for free. How you use it and how you play the trial&error game is entirely up to you.
Alan Johnson
Reply to this commentAll the information is available freely on the web for everyone to read. People just look for the silver bullet.
Reply to this commentLooking at your site, something tells me you haven’t learn much from this free “information”
Reply to this commentSome tells me that you are an arrogant prick. That comment was uncalled for.
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentYou are exactly right. Just read John Chow’s blog and save $3,000.
Reply to this commentLol you’ve got a little something on your nose there, mate.
John doesn’t talk much at all about SEO, PPC, or even affiliate marketing for that matter. Half the stuff posted here is off topic and will have no benefit to your site or blog at all.
Reply to this commentI found this here:
http://www.johnchow.com/the-super-affiliates-guide-to-ppc-marketing/
which led me to a good ppc guide.
Good article on effective advertising:
http://www.johnchow.com/how-to-determine-the-effectiveness-of-your-advertising-campaign/
I downloaded John’s ebook here:
http://www.johnchow.com/make-money-online-may-2007/
Found a good article on bringing your blog to the next level:
http://www.johnchow.com/the-art-of-the-ramp/
Read a good post on income vs traffic:
http://www.johnchow.com/getting-traffic-is-half-the-battle/
These are all good on topic posts. That will be $500, I’ll send you my PayPal email address.
Reply to this commentGuess you’ve not been reading this blog long enough
Check back in the archives
Reply to this commentIt will be interesting to see how successful this becomes at a price like that. Wow.
Reply to this commentI’d have to agree with most of the comments so far. The money can be better spent on campaigns to promote your site. This type of education seems too technical for most bloggers.
Reply to this commentWow that’s almost as much as college tuition
Reply to this commentIf you were going to spend the money on college or the Internet Marketing Ninja’s training then I would say this program is probably worth it. Hmm, get exactly what you need to earn probaly $200K in a year for $3K or spend 4 years in college and come out with a $100K debt and no job. In that case, the choice is obvious.
Reply to this commentAre you saying you can get the same education from this program as you can from college? Or are you saying you can get the same education from this program as you can from a $3K a year college? Because I would agree with the later.
Reply to this commentSorry I meant to say I would agree with neither.
A college degree is worth way more in face value than anything you can buy on the internet.
Reply to this commentI’d have to agree with most of the comments in that I’d rather spend $3000 to promote my site directly than to pay to learn how to do it.
Reply to this commentIt depends on the funds you have at your disposal. If $3k represents your entire budget then there are definitely better things to do with your money.
Alan Johnson
Reply to this commentQuick, someone give 50 bucks to whichever Ninja can slice the second set of keywords and second set of descriptions from johnchow.com! They’re killing me to still see when I snoop around!
About the ninjas - they don’t need to know what they’re doing, they just need to “appear” to know what they’re doing. Thats in marketing 101, section two paragraph 4 right before “a fool and his money…” no offense intended of course.
Will the money train that is internet ever slow down?
Reply to this commentPretty expensive, hey. Well, I would signup if all my sites are doing well. Too bad, still noob.
Reply to this commentNinja style, sound like sneaking around some people properties and take money from their house with ease.
Reply to this commentA final thought - these guys, whom I am not putting down in any way, should have done like Brett Tabke and build up the sites rep a little before going for the quick 2995.00 in my opinion. It feels like a cheap tactic as it stands (and not because internet didn’t exist in the era of Ninja’s). Even Brett stops at 89.95 for webmasterworld.com and even then you don’t HAVE to subscribe to read most of the stuff.
I’d wager that 99.5% of the video stuff on the ninja site is covered on http://www.Webmasterworld.com with very little digging. If you don’t find what you want send Martinibuster a quick message and he’ll hook you up on your topic of choice. I hope i’m not placing a bullseye on my own back from my peers for speaking my mind here, but it is what it is.
Reply to this commentI’d probably make sure the site returned a pretty good exact match search on “Internet Marketing” in Google before i rolled it out too. I stopped looking after i’d gone through the first 10 pages.
Just my 2 cents though.
Reply to this commentThere’s a point where I view someone as a scam artist. $3,000 a year is that point. Sure, it’s not illegal, but hopefully I’m not the only one who would feel bad about taking someone’s entire savings account for my own greed. If what they have is truly worth $3,000 a year, then great…but for some reason, I find that extremely hard to believe.
Reply to this commentWell at least they’re offering a money back guarantee (including travel cost) if you don’t make your money back in 6 months. Anyone who chooses to take part, let us know what happens
Reply to this commentFor the Elite Retreat that is…..according to Cow’s blog.
Reply to this commentIf you learn social media marketing (an social market research) then you’ll never need to join a coaching program… Your market will tell you what to sell it… All top-level respected information is being disseminated freely … This blog is a prime example.
Learn from those that are already where you want to be and emulate them… Subscribe to their feeds… If you just found a well respected blog, go back to the beginning and read / implement everything… & don’t forget your map (your process map).
Charles Heflin.com
Reply to this commentWhile I agree with what you say, one still needs to carve out a niche and be different from the rest. Following your guidelines while doing something different is a key to success.
From what I can see here is where I see true success in the blogging world right now:
1) Develop an unique idea that can be monetized and adds benefit blogs, blog owners, blog readers.
2) Develop delivery system to implement idea…a widget for example.
3) Develop a marketing strategy that is viral in nature - a good affiliate program that is both deep and wide in its matrix.
4) Take it public or sell out to Google for cash and stock options.
5) Buy an island somewhere warm and retire.
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentUgh, for 3 grand you wouldn’t expect 175 coding errors on the index page alone.
Reply to this commentNow that is funny!
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentThey are not selling valid code, they are selling marketing.
And I doubt marketers are good coders.
Reply to this commentWell with the money being charged they should have hired a good coder. While at it they should have hired a good producer too. The delivery of the content is just sad!
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentSorry, but $3,000 a year for some videos is ridiculous. The sad thing is, there are people who will pay it, and regret it later. Go to Barnes & Nobles and grab yourself a few books, and a coffee. Then subscribe to a few RSS feeds for free.
Reply to this commentFirst of all, it’s not just for some videos. You also get access to the arsenal of tools that for whatever reason Michael hardly mentioned.
Reply to this commentWell its great to see most with rational thinking.
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Reply to this commenthttp://www.Area51Marketings.com
$3000 to become a Ninja…no thanks, I’ll self-teach myself
-Mike
Reply to this comment$3000 is outrages! Wonder how many people will take up this membership subscription.
Reply to this commentIt`s really a lot of money bot consider like this, if their content is really good and you can use it to make money and if you make 300$/month you are in advantage.
Reply to this commentHmm… $3000…. I’ll buy something else hehe.. I’ll spend it on food and put it in my blog lolz
Reply to this commentSimply not worth it. As others have said, you can probably learn just as much from books and RSS feeds which cause hardly a fraction of the cost…and then you can spend your bling on actual marketing.
Reply to this commentIf Arron Wall puts as much effort into this project as he did his SEO book and blog, this program will rock. All three bloggers have reputations to protect, so I can’t imagine they would do a poor job or take advantage of anyone.
Reply to this commentThat said, I think the price is steep…even so, …If I had it I would gladly pay it.
As to the Ninja logo, he looks more like a terrorist to me.
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Reply to this commenthttp://www.krazl.com
Exactly what does this have to do with what is being discussed? You sir are a spam whore!
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentKrazl,
After looking at your blog, you should probably invest in this Ninja package to learn how to do affiliate marketing properly. Your blog stinketh.
Reply to this commentam i the only sane one here??? what a waste of money. like it’ll really help you make money? horse dung! it’ll make those guys rich if they get enough suckers. and i thought a review on this blog was a waste of money. ninja takes the cake. if this post gets people to shell over 3 grand…then readers of this blog are way way stupider then i thought.
Reply to this commentYou think they’d at least have a decent web site to sell their $3,000 package.
Reply to this commentFirst of all, coming from someone with the name of Bloggernoob, I’m sorry but I’m going to have to go with the likes of Shoemoney, Aaron Wall, Andy Beal and the rest on this one. These people have made their livings online and most very profitably. If you don’t think there’s valuable information to learn from them, then you’re going to be a noob your whole life.
Reply to this commentyou’re going to diss me cause of my domain name? wow. im not selling anything. did i ask you to buy my ebook or video? the sad thing is, you won’t buy that program but you support it. you’re not making money off of it but you support it. you’re probably just kissing high profile arse.
Reply to this commentWhy are you trying to justify a $3,000 price tag? Nobody is claiming that the information isn’t valuable. Obviously they are all successful, and we can all learn a thing or two from them. The real question is, is $3,000 the value of it? I’d be willing to bet that all the information they give you can be found for free just as easily. If I was Bill Gates, would you buy a bottle of tap water from me for $500? Sure, water is of value, but I’ll use the sink. As for the tools that you listed on your blog, I’m using most of those features now…and I don’t pay a dime.
Reply to this commentI think many people would think that there are so many other things to do with $3000
. If I had that much to spend I think it would be going on driving traffic. Although if your a dot com mogul then this probably is going to take you to another level if you can afford it! 
Reply to this commentGimmie a case study
Reply to this commentLooks like the Ninja`s should do some research on pricing a product to the demographic in which you pitch. “Experts” hey …. X is and unknown quantity and a spurt is a drip under pressure.
Reply to this commentKind of an oxymoron here, If we could afford a $3,000 program, we wouldn’t need it.
Reply to this commentCompletely agree.
But I guess this could be for rich people who are just getting into the internet and like to spend money.
Reply to this commentEven though I believe in offering information for free, this project is most likely a serious one considering the people who are behind it.
Alan Johnson
Reply to this commentBS. These guys are whoring themselves for the sake of a buck. Their reputations will take a hit for this cheap crap that they are pimping!
The Mad Ape
Reply to this commentShoemoney for example is raking in over $1m on a monthly basis from affiliate marketing. Do you think that he would risk his reputation just for the sake of making a quick buck?
Alan Johnson
Reply to this commentAgreed. I don’t think half of the people involved in this, actually i’d say all of the would risk their reputation for a small slice each.
Reply to this commentIf they wouldn’t have believed in this project they would have indeed stayed away. In the end, it all boils down to your budget, if $3k is an amount you are willing to spend, it’s fine, as long as it doesn’t represent your entire budget.
Alan Johnson
Reply to this commentI think they will do very well. They´ll have lots of subscriptions.
Reply to this commentThis is a product for big companies. For a big company 3k is nothing. With this (nice) review they are targeting the wrong audience. A small Marketing mistake. That´s all. Or maybe not. Don´t forget. They are the Internet Marketing Ninja´s.
I wouldn’t buy this product. One of the great rules of sales is risk reversal. It’s easier to sell an item if you reverse the risk to the customer - eg. give them a free trial or return guarantee if they’re not satisfied.
And while this product has a ten day trial, it clearly states in the terms and conditions that anyone who has had a free ten day trial may not return the product. This sets off alarm bells for me right away. What if the trial is ok, but the rest of the product is not so great? A year is a long time. Are they not confident enough in their own product that people will want to keep it once they’ve signed up to the full version?
Reply to this commentI agree with the above noter. If I had an “extra” 3 thou laying around, I don’t think I would be worried about buying a program that you can’t even “keep” for later use!
Reply to this commenthahaha
Anyone who pays for this 3,000 junk should really think twice about life.
Reply to this commentTheir demographic surely does not include me. I have a million dollar idea. Any one want to come up with a competing product and call it Internet Samurai?
Reply to this commentYou get several people who have made millions teaching it and you probably do have a million dollar idea. Good luck finding that though.
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