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It’s All About Pushing The Limit

written by John Chow on June 28, 2007

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When I made the decision to monetize John Chow dot Com nine months ago, I know that I would use the blog to push the limits of what was possible. The blog was to be used as a case study so others can learn from its success and failures.

Pushing the limits of blog monetization almost means pushing Google to the edge. There are many who will say that playing with Google is like playing with fire – sooner or later, you’re going to get burn. It seems that once again, I am in a Google penalty box. Not only am I no longer on page one for the search term, make money online, but I am no longer page one for my own name.

The number one theory for the penalty is I overdid the linkback promotion. Whatever the reason, it doesn’t really matter. The make money online search term was sending me about 150 visitors per day. As for the John Chow search term, the first ten pages of results all link to JohnChow.com, so the searcher will find me indirectly. That actually benefits bloggers who did a review of my blog.

Live By The Google, Die By The Google

This a good time to remind everyone that if you live by the Google, you’ll die by the Google. I do not depend on Google for my traffic and neither should you. Thousands of people have this blog bookmarked and nearly 6,000 read it by RSS. Way too many webmaster put too much time and effort into Google to try and gain a number one ranking. Google doesn’t stand still (they can’t afford to). They are always tweaking their search system so the chance of holding a number one spot forever is next to zero.

You should work on getting Google traffic for your blog, but you shouldn’t do it the exclusion of everything else. If all your traffic is coming from Google, then you need to work on getting other traffic sources. You are in a very scary situation. It’s like having all your blog income generated by AdSense. If that’s all I did, this blog would make only $1,000 a month instead of $10,000. Don’t put all your traffic eggs in one basket.

I am 100% positive that Google will eventually restore my number one ranking for my name. Right now, they look pretty stupid. Do a search for John Chow and you’ll get page after page of sites talking about JohnChow.com, but JohnChow.com isn’t the number one result.

Let’s see, I’ve been banned from Digg, banned from Technorati and now bitch slapped by Google. I’m doing pretty good! :twisted:

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I am running Google ads - The overlords seem to be kind to me atm!!

I think that is simply crazy. But your article is really on point, and serves as a guide and a warning for the rest of us. You'll be back on top John.

Well

I agree with him... keeping all the eggs in one basket results in a PITFALL.

I love Yahoo Answers. Try that!

You sure get a lot of pingbacks John!

I didn't find this site with Google. I'm sure most of those who visit regularly at all didn't either.

Excellent post, and a nice way of looking at it. If you choose to be a slave to Google (whether it be for traffic, income, or anything else), you're just asking for trouble. Great job on having some foresight... hopefully others will get a clue.

I feel this is google playing with their algo's recently. When you asked people to change their IBL anchor text to your blog about a month ago, because you weren't ranking for "make money online" anymore, the exact thing happened for my main phrases to my site (same day). Then you bounce back! Now you drop again and a bit heavier, and so does my site.... and others. Strange that most people who experience this phenomena all seem to experience it within 24hrs of each other!

I'm calling it the google bounce: It's as if they're turning the knobs every couple of weeks!

You'll be back with the google organics soon enough.. :grin:

The exact same thing happened to me on the same day. June 16th 2007. I previously had good google traffic for a lot of names and terms that were relevant to my site. It was like google turned out the lights! Thankfully I've got some good traffic from other search engines and from a few blogs (always looking for link trades, hint hint) but things aren't the same without the google traffic.

John, I think you took the link back promotion to an extreme! I did see a streak of avarice in your doing this promotion endlessly. :wink:

So now you do not fulfill a requirement for being a dot com mogul, as you listed in one of your previous post. :twisted: :twisted:

Do you know why were you banned? Was it because you where growing too fast?

Well, let's see if your traffic from Google is not relevant at all. Wait and see your income drop and you might change your mind. When you try to became a smart ass and make easy money by charging people for a no-follow link that's what happens.

It seems only logical that google decided to punish your site... a search engine should be about finding content related sites to your search query, and not to a site who happens to "whore" the most backlinks.

I recently had many sites drop off the map ( or Llast Page Penalty) and come back stronger than ever with no rational explanation. I thought of some things that were a little questionable about my link building,etc- before I could even consider removing them google traffic exploded.

Wow. Even if you don't rely on Google, that still stinks.

I don't know if it's a coinsidense or what that during eBay's resellers' event in Boston, Jeremy Schoemaker (shoemoney) whined about John Chow for more than 10 minutes about how it's an insult to Google and it makes Google look stupid when people like John Chow (he called John by his name) are openly selling links and using the Google Bombing to promote his site and then shows up as #1 on the results when someone searches for "Make Money Online".
Then he went on WebmastersRadio.fm to whine about the same thing last week and just then, I noticed John Chow's website was gone from SEPRs.
Once again, I don't know if it's a counsidense or someone whinned enough about John Chow to have John's reviews removed from SEPRs.

Hmmm...so how it goes now?

I am sure you will be back at page one. You do have a goog blog, and this is the most important thing. Do not get upset. Go ahead, you doing a great job.

That's a shitty thing to do to someone who's probably in the top 1% of Adsense earners. I know Adsense and SERPs are separate, but still.

Why don't you counter strike by switching all your sites to YPN?

I see what you're saying, but let's look at reality - if Chow switched to YPN right now, Google would still go on without him - probably without even blinking.

The only person it would hurt, is Chow's checking account. You know what I mean?

Google Adsense just banned me. :mad:
Any idea?
Thanks a lot.

The art of SEO is to optimize for your readers and not just for Google ... Good Content + Good SEO Efforts = Good Rank in Google ... naturally!

Darn

Heh wow, yeah I hope when my blog starts makin money that most of it isnt from adsense because it's way to risky to depend on adsense i think.

Does your ReviewMe change it's price once in a while? I guess if a newbie signs up does their price keep increasing based on traffic and such? :?:

Hi John,

I am so curious about ADSENSE, could make me a favor? Take a look at with my results. I need some expert comment about adsense.
Thanks. :?:

You'll b back shortly!

Ok, first wait a while maybe its because of your paid links business

If no result after 10 Days,,,,
If you want your 150 hits back,

Shut down Paid links business but you can still refer

Then send your application for reconsideration in Google Web master Sitempas dashboard,,,

Apologising about paid links

That's not a bad idea actually. Also you can still sell links, you just have to be a bit more stealthy about it :wink: (which should be right up John's alley) :twisted:

I guess the worse thing is if your Web Hosting shut down or slowed down for whatever reason.

My advice to all you self-hosted Wordpress bloggers?

Go to Manage.. Export... and click "download export file" EVERYTIME you add a new post! It only takes a few seconds.

I'm sure your mother would be proud! XD

I hate Google . they cancel my AdSense account :sad: for invalid clicks.

John, perhaps it's time to consult with ya secret sources to get it back up! :evil: I'm pretty sure it'll just be a slight delay. :grin:

By the way on "make money online" you're on the fifth page now so you're not completely gone yet. :roll:

-Swapw

I wouldn't be surprised if in a couple of days, John Chow dot com is back on page 1.

It's a site wide penalty. He's breaking Google's rules and they are punishing him for it. Penalties like this can take from 30-60 days to wear off and longer if you don't correct the issues.

What rules is he breaking? I wasn't aware there was a set of SERP rules out there...

You have already climbed the google hill, No worries, if ppl know how to type "JohnChow" in google search bar they can do it in the url.

Good Luck

Vijay

"You should work on getting Google traffic for your blog, but you shouldn’t do it the exclusion of everything else" -- very good advice, John, thank you.

That is crap, being punished for coming up with ways to generate traffic and interest for your website.

:roll: Hello John,

Your articles are really good stuff.

Sorry to hear. Don't forget the rubberband effect. I have a feeling you'll bounce back even stronger than before.

I am eager to stick with Google, but it kicked me out, dont know what to do, I do learn from JohnChow, hopefully I will success on that.

If it will keep going You will be kicked out of the Internet John :twisted: :wink:

You'll be back up their soon, it hardly makes any sense for you not to be number one.

John - you were probably getting too many backlinks at once. Maybe you need to add them more slowly in the future.

It's great that you share this information with others though - many people wouldn't.

There is no stopping/slowing down the John Chow effect. :twisted:

To do a search for johnchow.com and not find this site listed makes Google look stupid or rather it makes them look incompetent.

Man that's gotta hurt, you aren't even number one for "john chow make money online"

Hi John,

I don't think this is a case of you encouraging too many keyword rich reciprocal links. I believe this is a case of you selling links and Google giving you a "Hand Job" because you're so open about it.

Maybe you should pull the offer you made where people can pay you to have the name in their comment followed and remove the "Featured Sites" in your sidebar, etc.

So many recip links can't be helping either.