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It’s All About Pushing The Limit

written by John Chow on June 28, 2007

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When I made the decision to monetize John Chow dot Com nine months ago, I know that I would use the blog to push the limits of what was possible. The blog was to be used as a case study so others can learn from its success and failures.

Pushing the limits of blog monetization almost means pushing Google to the edge. There are many who will say that playing with Google is like playing with fire – sooner or later, you’re going to get burn. It seems that once again, I am in a Google penalty box. Not only am I no longer on page one for the search term, make money online, but I am no longer page one for my own name.

The number one theory for the penalty is I overdid the linkback promotion. Whatever the reason, it doesn’t really matter. The make money online search term was sending me about 150 visitors per day. As for the John Chow search term, the first ten pages of results all link to JohnChow.com, so the searcher will find me indirectly. That actually benefits bloggers who did a review of my blog.

Live By The Google, Die By The Google

This a good time to remind everyone that if you live by the Google, you’ll die by the Google. I do not depend on Google for my traffic and neither should you. Thousands of people have this blog bookmarked and nearly 6,000 read it by RSS. Way too many webmaster put too much time and effort into Google to try and gain a number one ranking. Google doesn’t stand still (they can’t afford to). They are always tweaking their search system so the chance of holding a number one spot forever is next to zero.

You should work on getting Google traffic for your blog, but you shouldn’t do it the exclusion of everything else. If all your traffic is coming from Google, then you need to work on getting other traffic sources. You are in a very scary situation. It’s like having all your blog income generated by AdSense. If that’s all I did, this blog would make only $1,000 a month instead of $10,000. Don’t put all your traffic eggs in one basket.

I am 100% positive that Google will eventually restore my number one ranking for my name. Right now, they look pretty stupid. Do a search for John Chow and you’ll get page after page of sites talking about JohnChow.com, but JohnChow.com isn’t the number one result.

Let’s see, I’ve been banned from Digg, banned from Technorati and now bitch slapped by Google. I’m doing pretty good! :twisted:

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{ 147 comments }

Jack June 28, 2007 at 7:08 pm

i am first. :D

Mubin June 28, 2007 at 7:14 pm

Not really first if you dont have a link back to your site, so kinda pointless.

Hey John, look out for Alexa and feedburner next, that would be a biatch…

BUt seriously your not banned from technorati, just disliked I guess.

John Chow June 28, 2007 at 9:17 pm

I was banned for a while. It was during that time when I pinged the hell out of out them. :twisted:

Ankur June 28, 2007 at 10:14 pm

You cant blame technorati …. their ass got burned with your evil ping’s!!! HAHAHA!

Eastwood June 29, 2007 at 12:06 am

will you still publish the already submitted johnchow.com review batches?

Philomena Ojikutu June 29, 2007 at 1:42 am

Live by Google florish by the people!

Cumulative visitors to any blog would naturally stick by your blog if the menu is nourishing enough.

There is no reason for any ingenious blogger to die by Google because, the multitude that had come by Google and stuck with you don’t need Google again to keep sticking with you.

You can’t minimize the impact of a serch engine that brings 80% of all your organic SE traffic.

Like John already said, the Google tweaking is only but temporary for a brief season.

You can’t do anything against the truth but for the truth!

Jarle June 29, 2007 at 2:13 am

What would be the worst site you could be banned from?

A video a day June 29, 2007 at 3:21 am

i thought so. thanks for letting us lot know.

when will google do the next pagerank update?

anyone?

A video a day June 29, 2007 at 3:29 am

john, i just did a search on the term “john chow”, funnily enough, johnchow.net is ranked well above johnchow.com, and it’s simply wrong, but then again, you were gaming with google on and you get a slap on the wrist….

Marc June 29, 2007 at 7:12 am

I’ve never heard of anyone getting banned from Alexa. I imagine you’d really have to go way overboard to have them even notice you.

MrGPT June 29, 2007 at 1:14 pm

JohnChow: The evil man who got banned from every search engine.

How’s that title John ;) ?

web development blog June 28, 2007 at 7:10 pm

I was wondering when you’d post something about this :) Did you call Google up to find out what happened, or did you just do some looking around and guess that the linkback promotion is what did it? I’m very curious to know.

James

Ankur June 28, 2007 at 10:16 pm

I doubt google can do anything …. its all an automated algorithm which i suppose very few people can edit. Larry and Page are also :twisted:

Lewis Empire June 28, 2007 at 11:28 pm

Google may be automated but they sure can drop a ranking in a hurry if they feel like it. There was a recent court case (which Google won) about their page ranks and displaying a URL ina search.

ritchie June 28, 2007 at 11:28 pm

that’s what they say, but there’s plenty evidence that there are manual tweaks.

Philomena Ojikutu June 29, 2007 at 1:48 am

The best of robobts cannot out-perfom the capacity of the human brain, that is why there is always a need by Google for manual tweaking now and then.

Marc June 29, 2007 at 7:16 am

What’s often perceived as manual tweaks are much more likely to be specialized filters. They look like manual tweaks since they many either only affect one segment, or only one site or two across many segments.

They can’t manually tweak, it simply does not scale.

blogcrowds June 29, 2007 at 7:10 am

Well then they better fix the algorithm, if this become more widespread people will stop using google.

By the way, Larry and Page are the same person.

Larry Page & Sergey Brin

Marc June 29, 2007 at 7:14 am

This is just a minor blip. Besides even if it wasn’t, so long as most of the queries return good results, the masses won’t care that John’s not ranking for his name. This type of thing has happened before and will happen again. In the intervening period, they’re pulling in over a billion a quarter :P

ken June 28, 2007 at 7:14 pm

test. did my comments show up.

ken June 28, 2007 at 7:16 pm

sorry guys, I was testing out something. I just notice that if I put my name as * m o n e y * word in it, it’s didn’t show up. I guess this is john comments spam filter working behind the scene.

Jarle June 29, 2007 at 2:14 am

I have also tried other names and have come to the same conclusion.

Ed Lau June 28, 2007 at 7:18 pm

I told you it would eventually come back to bite you in the ass.

shaun June 29, 2007 at 9:52 am

john has always said don’t always rely on google, nobody really warned him he always knew this was a possible outcome.

SEO Blog June 29, 2007 at 10:04 am

I’m pretty sure he meant the reciprocal linking review scheme, not relying on Google.

gaman June 28, 2007 at 7:20 pm

What a coincident. I just noticed that yesterday.

webd360 June 28, 2007 at 7:21 pm

Don’t worry, you still have your loyal readers and you’ll still get traffic through all of us who recommend your site to others. You’ll probably get back the number one spot for your name soon too, since it is your domain too.

Ankur June 28, 2007 at 10:17 pm

Google will get screwed if they dont put the right site (JC Dot Com) in the first place for John Chow.

Dont worry, they are bound by their own rules :mrgreen:

SEO Blog June 29, 2007 at 10:06 am

Um, no they wont. When a site is trying to game them why would they be bound to return it as a result? Site’s get banned and penalized all the time. The best way for John to get back in their good graces would be to kill off all the review posts and submit a reinclusion request.

Hamlet Batista June 29, 2007 at 11:08 am

I agree. I would stop the paid links as well, but that would depend on whether the money he makes from them is worth the rankings( assuming he gets them back).

SEO Blog June 29, 2007 at 11:19 am

Just from the math you posted about earlier (the value of those make money online clicks) I would think it would be worth it to stop the paid links. Also, he wouldn’t have to stop completely, just keep it on the DL when doing it.

free website traffic June 29, 2007 at 7:08 am

I found JC through someone other site, not Google. Your traffic is definitely coming from all sorts of places, John.

Warren Buffett June 28, 2007 at 7:21 pm

So, does that mean you are going to stop those batches?

John Chow June 28, 2007 at 9:18 pm

No, but it means another rule change is coming.

Ankur June 28, 2007 at 10:18 pm

HAHAHA!! YOU ARE SOO :twisted: JOHN …. KEEP GOING!!

SEO Blog June 29, 2007 at 11:02 am

Good grief… you’ve got a whole mess of brown on your nose mate. :roll:

simon June 28, 2007 at 11:20 pm

So what would that be?

A video a day June 29, 2007 at 3:25 am

yes, please let us know asap.

free website traffic June 29, 2007 at 7:09 am

What happens to the entries that have been submitted thus far?

Hamlet Batista June 29, 2007 at 10:09 am

John,

At this point it doesn’t really matter if you change your rules. Like you did (per my advise) when you started to mix your incoming link anchor text.

Your link back campaign became so popular that it got to Google ears, or someone (Michael Nivola?) reported you. The bottom line is that you are in their radar. They don’t like their rankings to be manipulated.

Being an old SEO dog, I’ve had many of my affiliate sites banned or dropped for key terms. That is why I did not participate in your link back promotion.

For those that are copying John’s strategy now is a good time to fold your flags.

Wahlau.NET June 28, 2007 at 7:45 pm

yup..it is sad to not have your own name appearing on google…

I think it will come back

Shaun Carter June 28, 2007 at 7:57 pm

“Let’s see, I’ve been banned from Digg, banned from Technorati and now bitch slapped by Google. I’m doing pretty good! :twisted:”

And you still make $10,000 a month… amazing!

Ankur June 28, 2007 at 10:19 pm

Agloco is yet not added!!

Marc June 29, 2007 at 7:19 am

Agloco will be a one-time cash-out (unless John wants to hold on to stock). You earn shares of the company rather than money this time around.

MoneyFromHome June 28, 2007 at 8:08 pm

I don´t think its you in particular. I have a few sites that are number 1 on Google one day and then number 30 or 40 the next! Cann´t figure them out!

Bruno Martins June 29, 2007 at 2:16 am

Same thing to me, it drives me nuts when my sites don’t show up in first page.

Joey June 28, 2007 at 8:12 pm

I noticed that Text Lind Ads dropped in the serps too. I was looking for them yesterday and if it weren’t for their paid listing they would not have been on page one.

It would be nice to know what your traffic numbers are after the drop from google.

Google is important but since we don’t have control over them we need to work on alternate traffic sources.

Ankur June 28, 2007 at 10:24 pm

Ya … some evil source like

Pinging the hell out of feedburner,
Pinging the hell out of technorati,
Pinging the hell out of blogsearch,
Pinging the hell out of yahoosearch,

Total money > 20k

Hahaha :lol: :lol:

Terra Andersen June 28, 2007 at 8:13 pm

I agree, your page not being ranked #1 for that is lame. I’m sure they’ll correct it soon!

soundofgold June 29, 2007 at 1:06 am

It is lame but thats how Google seem to play the game to please….well whoever they need to please (eg. try to ask some Chinese residents about THEIR results of Google searches :???: )

Ulchie June 28, 2007 at 8:31 pm

HAHA and your blog still makes more money than many other blogs that are in google, don’t have a technorati penalty and aren’t banned from digg…. not that those three sites alone will give any site success anyways…

free website traffic June 29, 2007 at 7:17 am

John has certainly planted his seeds all this time and now should just worry about reaping all the good stuff. :twisted:

Gdog June 28, 2007 at 8:33 pm

That sucks, but those people at Google sure do catch on quickly.

Hawaii SEO June 28, 2007 at 8:39 pm

This could be an interesting case study about “Defensible traffic”.

For example: I often search your name but only as navigation. I am coming here regardless of your Google listing. I will simply change my method of navigation.

It would be cool if you were to show how traffic sources shift and the impact it has on overall traffic or not.

Chris June 28, 2007 at 8:40 pm

But like you said, you still have your nearly 6k daily readers. That’s an accomplishment in itself. Besides, if you are going to google john chow dot com, why not just type it into the web address?????

http://www.40hourstogo.com

Lewis Empire June 28, 2007 at 11:40 pm

Exactly. If you already know of John Chow why search for John Chow?

Jhon hebrink June 28, 2007 at 8:40 pm

Don’t care about Digg & Technorati coz I really love google :razz:

Ankur June 28, 2007 at 10:31 pm

Ya …. google seems to be on our side … and microsoft on others ( for digg users )

Marc June 29, 2007 at 7:22 am

That’s all perspective. Google is on Google’s side. That’s it. If you happen to line up next to them it may look like they’re on your side, but they can change any day. They are independent and while we share a symbiotic relationship with them, they owe us nothing.

Browie June 28, 2007 at 8:47 pm

I need to be like one of your readers and quickly buy an adwords ad to put “where did John go?… well visit our blog” LoL I love it.

musicNmovies June 28, 2007 at 8:48 pm

Sorry to hear about it, but your this post seems pretty lame and nothing more than a pissed boys grunting against the BIG GUYS.

Everybody knows, Google is the BEST & FASTEST way to garner traffic, that too for FREE. Without paying a dime to any eMarketing services.
Even you know it, if you look your graphs posted before, its evident from it.

I would advise you to STOP boasting about your 5K+ readers and bookmarks. Have you ever thought how those 5K+ people came to know about your website ?

I am sure a person like me living in INDIA would have never heard of your website (or even your name) – Chow ! if there have not been Google.

With Google you get geniune traffic as people searching for ‘Make Money Online’ would definitely love your tips & tricks. So they will eventually bookmark. So its not just bots & cheap traffic that you buy from some traffic providers. You get targets readers.

Yes, you GET IT. You dont have to even look out for them.

I get almost 300 – 500 new visitors everyday from backlinks & Google. Even you tried your best to optimize for Google (SEO plugin, Link back game, etc) .. but now it bombed and you think WE should not focus much on Google traffic.

Dear … it sounds like Sour Grapes…

It’s not just one time traffic th

John Chow June 28, 2007 at 9:23 pm

No, I’m not pissed. Like I said, I only get an average of 150 visits a day for make money online. That’s not going to make or break anyone. I’m more upset about them removing my name from page 1 (even though it send me less traffic).

Philomena Ojikutu June 29, 2007 at 2:09 am

150 came by “make money online”. that however could not have been the only search term throgh which visitors through Google came to your blog.

There are other search terms by which other visitors, through Google, came to your blog. Cumulatively, Google may have been bringing 600 organic visitors.

So, 150 less is not too much to make a decicive impact.

Hamlet Batista June 29, 2007 at 10:22 am

John,

Believe me, I feel your pain. It is funny that you say you are not upset about losing #1 for “make money online”. Let’s do some simple math.

I checked Google Adwords and the #1 advertiser for that phrase is paying $3.20 per click. He probably only gets half the number of clicks you get. Organic results get a higher click through rate.

150 x 3.20 x 30 days = $14,000.00

That is more than you’ve ever made per month so far.

SEO Blog June 29, 2007 at 11:00 am

Yeah, that term only brought you 150 visitors but how many visits did Google bring you over all? I’m willing to bet it’s a hell of a lot more than you’re letting on.

A Google penalty hurts, I don’t care who you are.

Ankur June 28, 2007 at 10:29 pm

Bahhhhh …. I am from India and no crap, google’s not the only website working here :!: :?:

Have you ever heard of other blogs … then they link to each other … then you can click the link … and then you can find john chow dot com!!

Instead of John, you appear more pissed off.

And heaven sake, cant John Enjoy writing what he wishes while the google guys are worried how come the proper site isint ranked for ‘John Chow’?

Lewis Empire June 28, 2007 at 11:34 pm

I don’t think it matters where anyone is from. A website with great information will get their name out regardless of ranking high in Google.

free website traffic June 29, 2007 at 7:23 am

Basically, most of these “rules” apply to most of us, because we do depend on Google for traffic whether or not we admit it. But with John, he’s like in a league of his own (plus a few other blogs/sites that have definitely “made” it); he’s almost self-sufficient because he’s accomplished so much in such a short time.

Vijay Teach Me June 29, 2007 at 8:00 am

Yep U R Right it is the fight of a little guy, John Chow has already made his own niche and following.

Vijay

Bill June 28, 2007 at 9:11 pm

Google did it to me too on my site and through me 10 pages deep. The fix! I changed some of my meta name tags and put your local tech guy . com on my page description or title that shows up on my ie tabs in my browser. took 48 hrs and i was back in business . Google Bots had to crawl my site again. Well good luck. :cool:

Santosh P June 28, 2007 at 9:12 pm

You will be back john.. Btw read their TOS, and shoot back a mail.. and I am sure they would restore your position or alteast let you know what happened..

kenny June 28, 2007 at 9:38 pm

You’ve obviously never dealt with Google :mrgreen: The best John will get is an automated/canned response, even from his rep.

John Chow June 28, 2007 at 9:56 pm

My rep deals with AdSense. He wouldn’t know the first thing about the SERP. :mrgreen:

Sambay Reviews June 28, 2007 at 9:50 pm

Well, that’s what happen when you try to bite the hand that was feeding you. Trying to jack up your links with excessive link exchanges is a no in Google’s book (so with Technorati it seems)
You say “make money online” was only sending you 150 visitors a day. How about the other keywords? I estimate if you’re really removed from Google’s index, it will cost you at least 50K visitors a month.

You still have a chance, though. If you contact them and tell them you will be a nice boy from now on and be done with your “evil” ways, they may forgive and take you back!

Melissa June 28, 2007 at 9:50 pm

John, do you think it is weird that Text Link Ads has also disappeared on Google?

If you type “Text Link “or “text-link-ads” into Google they are gone…

John Chow June 28, 2007 at 9:59 pm

I don’t think it’s weird. I think it’s Google being Google. They like to keep people guessing.

Googlelady June 28, 2007 at 10:00 pm

John,
Google is tweaking “Again” their algorithm so I don’t think you are totally banned. In approx one week or less you will have your positions again (When Google finish their algorithm tweaking). How much I hate this really. The last pagerank update that google did (one month ago approx.) they lowered Googlelady.com from 7 to 6. That was a big ouchh!

free website traffic June 29, 2007 at 7:29 am

This site has gone up and down Google SERPs more than the number of comments on this page probably. I’m sure John will find his name (at least) back in page one soon enough.

David de Souza June 28, 2007 at 10:10 pm

I’m curious….on what batch number did you notice that you had got to number 1 on google and which batch number broke you?

I wonder if it was a manual penalty or an automated one.

bwb June 28, 2007 at 10:15 pm

This is retarded, your site has tons of good info on the topic and now with you missing the top 5 sites are all crap sites with no info.

Google needs to fix this and rethink their start.

SEO Blog June 29, 2007 at 11:09 am

Lets see, John sells links (against Google’s TOS) and does a ton of reciprocal linking (against Google’s TOS). Why again should Google reconsider?

When you don’t play by the rules, don’t expect to win.

Dog Information June 28, 2007 at 10:19 pm

Maybe 900+ links for the same terms is over doing it a bit?

Googlelady June 28, 2007 at 10:40 pm

I don’t think this is the problem. It effects if overdoing with keywords but not backlinks (You can’t control the backlinks from other sites). But also Google banned for “black hat SEO”.

Ramkarthik June 28, 2007 at 10:47 pm

Hey John,
Are you going to change the term for linking or what? Once again you’ll be top for all search terms man. Neither google nor technorati can stop people from visiting you blog or stop you from earn $10K+.

Good Luck Man.

simon June 28, 2007 at 11:18 pm

JohnChow is famous of been ban by those large website.

Lewis Empire June 28, 2007 at 11:38 pm

Infamous as well!

Bid The Links June 28, 2007 at 11:24 pm

John Chow: What will happen if google ban your website? Will they ban your adsense as well?

Ankur June 28, 2007 at 11:31 pm

I doubt they will let away John Chow

John Chow June 28, 2007 at 11:33 pm

No, AdSense and the search engine are completely separate.

Bid The Links June 29, 2007 at 9:20 am

so, penalize a blog will not ban adsense account?
what if a blog using black hat seo? curious only. :mrgreen:

John Chow June 29, 2007 at 9:53 am

The only way to get banned from AdSense is by violating the AdSense TOS, which stats nothing about black hat SEO.

Kevin June 28, 2007 at 11:29 pm

John, they may be penalizing you for using paid text links – I noticed the other day while logged into google’s webmaster tools that it is now possible to “report paid links” and they are going to start discriminating against sites that buy or sell paid links, because it is a manipulation of page rank that they say violates their user guidlines… Your site may be in a “penalty box” in an attempt to get your attention and show you that you are in trouble for using paid links. You might want to look into this somewhat new turn of events as the cause for your problem. I don’t think your linkback promotion is to blame.

Matthew June 29, 2007 at 12:17 am

I thought that it was only those who paid for links who got a penalty… not those who sold.

Matthew June 29, 2007 at 12:23 am

Looks like you are right from when I last looked. It seems to be both buying and selling.

http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/archives/2007/05/16/been-hit-in-the-last-14days-by-google-paidlinks-roll-out/

365 Days June 29, 2007 at 12:41 am

Mr. Chow,
I humbly submit my blog for your consideration. I have set a goal that at best could be considered extremely ambitious.

I have given myself 365 days to make a living via blogging and other internet sources. I would be pleased if you could check in from time to time and give me some wisdom.

I am armed with no knowledge about making a living on the internet. I am researching as I go and sharing it with my readers. Any help or advice you could give would surely be welcome.

Check out the blog at
http://onemansgoal.blogspot.com

flipper June 29, 2007 at 12:55 am

I was on Page 1 at Google SERPs for a certain keyword and I was receiving more than 900+ uniques per day from it, a couple of days ago I noticed they pulled my website and it no longer appears on Google SERPs at all!

Fable June 29, 2007 at 1:05 am

Awesome article, John. Very thought-provoking indeed. I too must admit that I focus too heavily on Google’s influence towards my traffic and I can honestly see that if Google were to drop me then I wouldn’t really have a backup plan.

Hawaii SEO June 29, 2007 at 1:07 am

Hi John,

I don’t think this is a case of you encouraging too many keyword rich reciprocal links. I believe this is a case of you selling links and Google giving you a “Hand Job” because you’re so open about it.

Maybe you should pull the offer you made where people can pay you to have the name in their comment followed and remove the “Featured Sites” in your sidebar, etc.

SEO Blog June 29, 2007 at 11:12 am

So many recip links can’t be helping either.

Marc June 29, 2007 at 1:30 am

stick it to the man!

Ash Haque June 29, 2007 at 3:44 am

Man that’s gotta hurt, you aren’t even number one for “john chow make money online”

Mick June 29, 2007 at 4:00 am

To do a search for johnchow.com and not find this site listed makes Google look stupid or rather it makes them look incompetent.

CatherineL June 29, 2007 at 4:24 am

John – you were probably getting too many backlinks at once. Maybe you need to add them more slowly in the future.

It’s great that you share this information with others though – many people wouldn’t.

free website traffic June 29, 2007 at 7:32 am

There is no stopping/slowing down the John Chow effect. :twisted:

Casey June 29, 2007 at 6:15 am

You’ll be back up their soon, it hardly makes any sense for you not to be number one.

shman June 29, 2007 at 6:17 am

If it will keep going You will be kicked out of the Internet John :twisted: :wink:

Wills June 29, 2007 at 6:41 am

I am eager to stick with Google, but it kicked me out, dont know what to do, I do learn from JohnChow, hopefully I will success on that.

Ryan June 29, 2007 at 6:42 am

Sorry to hear. Don’t forget the rubberband effect. I have a feeling you’ll bounce back even stronger than before.

Wills June 29, 2007 at 6:45 am

:roll: Hello John,

Your articles are really good stuff.

Real Estate Editorial June 29, 2007 at 6:50 am

That is crap, being punished for coming up with ways to generate traffic and interest for your website.

free website traffic June 29, 2007 at 7:33 am

“You should work on getting Google traffic for your blog, but you shouldn’t do it the exclusion of everything else” — very good advice, John, thank you.

Vijay Teach Me June 29, 2007 at 7:46 am

You have already climbed the google hill, No worries, if ppl know how to type “JohnChow” in google search bar they can do it in the url.

Good Luck

Vijay

Swapw June 29, 2007 at 8:42 am

John, perhaps it’s time to consult with ya secret sources to get it back up! :evil: I’m pretty sure it’ll just be a slight delay. :grin:

By the way on “make money online” you’re on the fifth page now so you’re not completely gone yet. :roll:

-Swapw

free website traffic June 29, 2007 at 10:27 am

I wouldn’t be surprised if in a couple of days, John Chow dot com is back on page 1.

SEO Blog June 29, 2007 at 11:14 am

It’s a site wide penalty. He’s breaking Google’s rules and they are punishing him for it. Penalties like this can take from 30-60 days to wear off and longer if you don’t correct the issues.

Shaun Carter June 29, 2007 at 10:48 pm

What rules is he breaking? I wasn’t aware there was a set of SERP rules out there…

Edgar G. June 29, 2007 at 8:58 am

I hate Google . they cancel my AdSense account :sad: for invalid clicks.

MK June 29, 2007 at 9:12 am

I’m sure your mother would be proud! XD

Jimson Lee June 29, 2007 at 9:39 am

I guess the worse thing is if your Web Hosting shut down or slowed down for whatever reason.

My advice to all you self-hosted Wordpress bloggers?

Go to Manage.. Export… and click “download export file” EVERYTIME you add a new post! It only takes a few seconds.

Ashwini June 29, 2007 at 10:07 am

You’ll b back shortly!

Ok, first wait a while maybe its because of your paid links business

If no result after 10 Days,,,,
If you want your 150 hits back,

Shut down Paid links business but you can still refer

Then send your application for reconsideration in Google Web master Sitempas dashboard,,,

Apologising about paid links

SEO Blog June 29, 2007 at 11:16 am

That’s not a bad idea actually. Also you can still sell links, you just have to be a bit more stealthy about it :wink: (which should be right up John’s alley) :twisted:

Jaime June 29, 2007 at 11:18 am

Hi John,

I am so curious about ADSENSE, could make me a favor? Take a look at with my results. I need some expert comment about adsense.
Thanks. :?:

browie.com June 29, 2007 at 11:22 am

Does your ReviewMe change it’s price once in a while? I guess if a newbie signs up does their price keep increasing based on traffic and such? :?:

Russell Wagner June 29, 2007 at 12:43 pm

Heh wow, yeah I hope when my blog starts makin money that most of it isnt from adsense because it’s way to risky to depend on adsense i think.

Search Engine Marketing June 29, 2007 at 1:54 pm

The art of SEO is to optimize for your readers and not just for Google … Good Content + Good SEO Efforts = Good Rank in Google … naturally!

Darn

Jorge June 29, 2007 at 4:27 pm

Google Adsense just banned me. :mad:
Any idea?
Thanks a lot.

Easy Website Traffic June 29, 2007 at 4:39 pm

That’s a shitty thing to do to someone who’s probably in the top 1% of Adsense earners. I know Adsense and SERPs are separate, but still.

Why don’t you counter strike by switching all your sites to YPN?

Ryan Shamus June 29, 2007 at 7:15 pm

I see what you’re saying, but let’s look at reality – if Chow switched to YPN right now, Google would still go on without him – probably without even blinking.

The only person it would hurt, is Chow’s checking account. You know what I mean?

Jack June 29, 2007 at 4:57 pm

I am sure you will be back at page one. You do have a goog blog, and this is the most important thing. Do not get upset. Go ahead, you doing a great job.

Benny June 29, 2007 at 10:52 pm

Hmmm…so how it goes now?

Mesum June 29, 2007 at 10:53 pm

I don’t know if it’s a coinsidense or what that during eBay’s resellers’ event in Boston, Jeremy Schoemaker (shoemoney) whined about John Chow for more than 10 minutes about how it’s an insult to Google and it makes Google look stupid when people like John Chow (he called John by his name) are openly selling links and using the Google Bombing to promote his site and then shows up as #1 on the results when someone searches for “Make Money Online”.
Then he went on WebmastersRadio.fm to whine about the same thing last week and just then, I noticed John Chow’s website was gone from SEPRs.
Once again, I don’t know if it’s a counsidense or someone whinned enough about John Chow to have John’s reviews removed from SEPRs.

David Mackey June 30, 2007 at 8:37 pm

Wow. Even if you don’t rely on Google, that still stinks.

Jack June 30, 2007 at 9:46 pm

I recently had many sites drop off the map ( or Llast Page Penalty) and come back stronger than ever with no rational explanation. I thought of some things that were a little questionable about my link building,etc- before I could even consider removing them google traffic exploded.

Tim July 1, 2007 at 6:41 am

It seems only logical that google decided to punish your site… a search engine should be about finding content related sites to your search query, and not to a site who happens to “whore” the most backlinks.

Legal July 1, 2007 at 10:12 am

Well, let’s see if your traffic from Google is not relevant at all. Wait and see your income drop and you might change your mind. When you try to became a smart ass and make easy money by charging people for a no-follow link that’s what happens.

Webmaster Money July 2, 2007 at 1:47 am

Do you know why were you banned? Was it because you where growing too fast?

Arpit July 2, 2007 at 5:37 am

So now you do not fulfill a requirement for being a dot com mogul, as you listed in one of your previous post. :twisted: :twisted:

Vinay July 2, 2007 at 12:16 pm

John, I think you took the link back promotion to an extreme! I did see a streak of avarice in your doing this promotion endlessly. :wink:

Abi Titmuss July 2, 2007 at 12:38 pm

The exact same thing happened to me on the same day. June 16th 2007. I previously had good google traffic for a lot of names and terms that were relevant to my site. It was like google turned out the lights! Thankfully I’ve got some good traffic from other search engines and from a few blogs (always looking for link trades, hint hint) but things aren’t the same without the google traffic.

dotnetnuke July 2, 2007 at 1:12 pm

Bl John.

Tv blog July 3, 2007 at 6:22 am

I feel this is google playing with their algo’s recently. When you asked people to change their IBL anchor text to your blog about a month ago, because you weren’t ranking for “make money online” anymore, the exact thing happened for my main phrases to my site (same day). Then you bounce back! Now you drop again and a bit heavier, and so does my site…. and others. Strange that most people who experience this phenomena all seem to experience it within 24hrs of each other!

I’m calling it the google bounce: It’s as if they’re turning the knobs every couple of weeks!

You’ll be back with the google organics soon enough.. :grin:

Jenn July 3, 2007 at 9:32 am

Excellent post, and a nice way of looking at it. If you choose to be a slave to Google (whether it be for traffic, income, or anything else), you’re just asking for trouble. Great job on having some foresight… hopefully others will get a clue.

James July 3, 2007 at 2:20 pm

I didn’t find this site with Google. I’m sure most of those who visit regularly at all didn’t either.

John Cow July 4, 2007 at 10:13 am

You sure get a lot of pingbacks John!

Traffic July 6, 2007 at 3:09 am

Well

I agree with him… keeping all the eggs in one basket results in a PITFALL.

I love Yahoo Answers. Try that!

cooliojones July 6, 2007 at 10:22 am

I think that is simply crazy. But your article is really on point, and serves as a guide and a warning for the rest of us. You’ll be back on top John.

Ross July 13, 2007 at 3:40 am

I am running Google ads – The overlords seem to be kind to me atm!!