LoyaltePays “Pays” You To Build Your List


When Heide Holtz contacted me about LoyaltePays, a new membership site that offers to pay you to build your email list, I was very intrigued. She made me a test account so I could snoop around and report my findings.

Does LoyaltePays Pay You To Build Your List?

In two words: not really. LoyaltePays offers instructions and resources to help you build your list. You can then use the list to promote LoyaltePays memberships and get 50% recurring commission. Maybe LoyaltePays considers that getting paid to build your list but I would consider it a pretty big marketing stretch.

If LoyaltePays doesn’t really pay you for building your list, then what do they do? In a nutshell, LoyaltePays is a membership site that provide its members with the two main items needed to make money online: a product and a mailing list. In addition to LoyaltePays memberships that pay 50% recurring commission, LoyaltePays offers its members re-brandable eBooks and reports that they can sell or give away for free as part of their list building efforts. There are also hundreds of articles that members can use as content for their emails.

The 7 Step List Building Engine


At the heart of the LoyaltePays system is the list building engine. Here, you’ll be guided in seven easy steps on how to set up your list and auto responder, how to get people to sign up and how to optimize it. They even include ready made Facebook fan page templates for you to use. All you have to do is copy and paste the codes. I like their use of the Like button. I need to put that on my fan page.


While LoyaltePays helps you build your list, they don’t provide any mailing list service. Instead, they refer you to GetResponse. While GetResponse is a good email list service, Aweber is my preferred list building service and I recommend them over GetResponse.

7-Day Trial and $50 Sign Up Bonus

To allow new members to test out LoyaltePays, Heide is offering a 7-days trial for $7. You’ll also receive a $50 bonus that you can use for any LoyaltePays value added offerings, like a custom made Facebook fan page or custom auto responder service. After the 7-day trial, membership is $47 per month.

While LoyaltePays may not actually pay you to build your list, they’re a pretty good resource for the information and tools needed to build and monetize a list. Everything in the membership site is available to you during the 7-day trial. You can take the trial, grab everything on the site and then cancel. You’ll definitely get more than $7 worth of information. However, that’ll be a pretty evil thing to do. πŸ™‚

LoyaltePays “Pays” You To Build Your List

57 thoughts on “LoyaltePays “Pays” You To Build Your List”

  1. Dino Vedo says:

    This site is too funny. “Make a list, and promote MY product” , how is this getting paid to build a list? I would never sign up for that site.

    Your better off just building a list and market to them products you create or products that you know for a fact have high conversion rates and that make you money, not a product that this site endorses!!!

    1. d3so says:

      Let’s rip their content!
      7 days free trial plus a $50 bonus is a steal.

      1. Dino Vedo says:

        First comment! Anyways, I checked out the site, and its a PR of 0. The website was up since 2005, so thats 5 years and still no PR? I would not trust that site at all… Something seems fishy..

        Plus 7 dollars for 50 dollars in their bonuses.. which is what? A custom fan page? blah

        Plus 47 dollars per month to teach you how to build a list is a joke. You sign up with Aweber, they teach you inside everything you need to know and have a great blog thats even for free to read I think…

      2. Dino Vedo says:

        btw its not a 7 day free trial… you pay 7 bucks for those 7 days…

        1. Oh… Didn’t notice that!

    2. Yeah I agree. I like how John said ‘Maybe LoyaltePays considers that getting paid to build your list but I would consider it a pretty big marketing stretch.’


    3. You created this site – Just because you think we can make bigger and better list and that too with your with your guide – and then i will promote your products.

      I am sorry Heide but i can not understand the whole idea here;

      Anyway i am siging up for that Facebook FanPage Code.

    4. We can’t say its funny but yes the idea is bit “crazy”.

      1. Well, it’s one type of model at least. Time will tell if it works.

    5. Heide says:

      Hi Dino, Thanks for your comment.

      I understand your thinking but what is different about loyaltepays -is that our members are not required to promote loyaltepays. Actually 90% of the resources are NOT about loyaltepays.

      We do provide our members with EVERYTHING they need to build a list, a facebook landing page to attract visitors, FREE giveaways, re-brandable ebooks, articles, eCourse series, follow up series… so they can get started at right away.

      Then, if they like what they see and are happy with all the tools and resources they are welcome to promote loyaltepays or any other affiliate program or their own product. This is about THEM making money and as you said it is best to promote something you know and are using in your business and that is what I am hoping for, helping others make money.

      I opted for the membership type program so everybody can afford the tools. Loyaltepays is a make-money-as-you-learn approach, more than just a coachinng program since you actually get access to everything from Landing page to content and traffic.

      Another reason to make this a membership site is to provide ongoing support as well as new tools and resources every week.

      Hope this helps,
      – Heide

    6. Hi Dino

      I fully agree with you. While they may give some value like the teplates for FB fan page they certainly aren’t paying anybody for building their email list.

      John, thanks for the evaluation of that site and the evil suggestion.


      1. It’s great to see that John can still remain pretty true to giving honest reviews…

        1. Because for him readers are more important than these companies.

  2. That seems like a hokey program. It also seems like a horrible bait and switch. Do they give you the terms of “pay you” before you sign up?

    1. d3so says:

      I suppose that “pay you” means promote their product and get paid πŸ˜›

      1. Nigel Chua says:

        Ha ha ha seems like it d3so! So clever of them getting people to sign up to their GetResponse affiliate links, and then getting the people to market their product to the lists that they don’t have to manage!

        It’s like affiliate marketing to affiliate marketers for potential affiliate marketers! May work for newbies, but not for seasoned marketers here. =p

  3. “Pays you to build your list”
    It’s really brilliant idea, I’ve never seen it before!

    1. Yeah have to dig more to get more idea about this.

      What do you say ?

      1. d3so says:

        You get paid from the comission you make by advertising their services to your list.

  4. I don’t get it.

    What are you paying $47/m for?


    1. d3so says:

      I guess it’s a membership site that teaches u how to build your list for $47 a month.

      1. exactly because that is the only explanation right now

      2. TasarΔ±m says:

        Yeah, that’s the only reasonable explanation i guess πŸ™‚

  5. S Ahsan says:

    pretty interesting John.. thanks for the heads up. I am working on several projects now and have bookmarked this. I havent gone through their stuff yet so cant say much at the moment. I am also hoping to review your book in a day or two.. Good luck!

    1. exactly its pretty interesting

      1. Very interesting indeed!

  6. getting paid to build a list is great. Sometimes referred to as a ‘Funded Proposal’. Give away something in exchange for email and then land prospect on a sales letter which sells a product with pays for the advertising to do it all again which means free leads.

    Great concept.


    1. Out of the BOX idea

    2. It’s a pretty sensational idea yeah πŸ™‚

  7. That one is really interesting concept. I must say.

    1. yeah highly intersting concept

  8. i guess its a membership site.

  9. I agree with Dino Vedo above.

    And why do we pay $47 every month? Do we get continued value, like some membership sites provide? Do they add new content to their membership site?

    And I really do not like their marketing scheme of saying ‘Pays you to build your list’, because that is not 100% true.


  10. ffl license says:

    I must confess I have taken advantage of trials like this and downloaded all the free stuff and then canceled. This service could be helpful to newbies.

  11. Dean Saliba says:

    Soon as I read the line “LoyaltePays β€œPays” You To Build Your List” I knew it wasn’t that straight forward.

    1. PPC Ian says:

      Agree with you! There is no free lunch!

      1. Well that’s unfortunately very true!

  12. PPC Ian says:

    Agree with others that the FB Fan Page code is cool!

    1. Yeah it’s very cool!

  13. Wanna build a list? Do it the hard way: good content, marketing & promotions, word-of-mouth and possibly a viral tool or two.

    Although it takes money to make money, this doesn’t sound like a good investment. I would caution others to think twice also.

    1. Lovely advice Church Events! I deeply concur πŸ™‚

  14. Like others have said before me, the deal seems pretty hokey, but the fan page setup and the like button code are definitely good ideas. Getting your content onto social media is one of the best ways to attract the most traffic!

  15. Heide says:

    Hello everyone and Thank You for all the comments on this blog as it actually gives me a chance to clear out all the questions and concerns.

    We all know that to make money online
    the first thing you need to do is “Build Your List”

    So, let’s have a look at
    WHAT you actually need to build a list!

    1. You need a webpage
    2. you need a squeeze page or a landing page with an opt-in to your newsletter
    3. you need content, to attract visitors to your page
    4. you need a marketing strategy
    5. you need to plan your resources
    6. the first resource you need is a FREE giveaway to attract subscribers onto your newsletter -this can be an eBook, eCourse…
    7. then you need to build a relationship with your subscribers -the best way to do this is to provide ongoing value content
    8. you need tools to track your results
    9. you need TRAFFIC -to set your engine in motion
    10. and you need to know how to optimize your engine -this could easily double or triple your income without adding one single new subscriber to your list

    … and the list goes on

    All of this and more is provided inside the LoyaltePAYS Members area

    Our Marketing tools are either re-brandable or non-branded.

    The 7 step system is designed to build our members list, brand and business!

    90% of the resources available inside LoyaltePAYS are NOT about LoyaltePAYS.

    This is not a coaching program, this an actual
    “Make Money as You Learn” approach.

    We all know that producing content, writing an eBook, pillar articles, marketing tools, a follow up sequence can take several months -provided you are a good writer and you know your niche market, you know your competition, and most importantly you know what your subscribers want and need…

    “Time is the #1 Reason why 99% of all online businesses fail or never get off the ground”

    By making all these tools and resources available inside LoyaltePAYS, our members can literally set-up an entire list building engine ready to make money in just ONE-DAY.

    Everything from a Customizable Facebook Landing page with opt-in to autoresponder, to Articles, eBooks, Videos, Tutorials, Marketing tools, Traffic, Optimization tips and more.

    The purpose of Loyaltepays is to get people started building their list right away while learning and making their own experience.

    I believe LoyaltePAYS is an ALL-IN-ONE solution. As I said all tools are either non-branded or re-brandable which clearly makes it all about THEM.

    But there is one more piece to this puzzle,
    “how to convert subscribers into CASH”

    It was only natural to make the affiliate program available to all our members, they already know the tools and are using it to build their business, so why not share 50% of the profits with them?

    Affiliates are paid a 50% monthly reoccurring commission for the life of their referrals.

    I chose to make this a membership site for several reasons:

    1. to avoid the high front end price
    2. to make it affordable to everyone
    3. to be able to provide ongoing support and new tools on a regular basis
    4. to help our members build a monthly residual income.

    Just 2 referrals cover 100% of the membership fee!

    The 7-Day Trial is a FULL ACCESS TRIAL and is there for a reason, to separate the people that only want a quick benefit from the ones that really appreciate all the time and effort that has been put into making Loyaltepays an integral solution to help entrepreneurs build their own businesses.

    I know my best marketing strategy is to only have affiliates promoting loyaltepays that actually know the product and are using it to buid their own business.

    I dont want them to do it for the money
    only because they believe in the product and
    everybody is FREE to promote anything
    this is about building your list
    your most valuable asset
    and you should only promote products you believe in.

    I do believe Loyaltepays is a product that will appeal to
    a wide audience no matter what their niche business is
    as every business needs extra cash.

    My hope is that with positive cash flow, an active list of
    subscribers, marketing experience and an entire community of likeminded entrepreneurs and affiliate marketers behind them, our members will be able to launch their own product in their own time -and succeed!

    This is the true philosophy behind loyaltepays, so when earlier today I read some of the comments here I was truly shocked. But then most of you dont know me so I hope this helped even if it is just to know me a little bit better.

    Wishing you all the best,
    – Heide

  16. “While LoyaltePays helps you build your list, they don’t provide any mailing list service.” That was the point I got uninterested, the service would be worthwhile if they included a mailing list service, but not without, SY

  17. I think I shall pass on this for now as I am so busy with my new blog. Let us know how it goes guys…..

  18. psychicjim says:

    I am hearing a lot about list building to make money online. Maybe it is time for me to build a list and put it on my blog?

    1. It’s never too late πŸ˜‰

  19. Sounds a little pyramidy to me…no?

  20. This is really amazing…but the only disadvantage is thatit provide only a trial…..

  21. Jonathan says:

    You know how Google always says “don’t be evil” and then acts really evil? Everytime I read John’s blog I think of that.


    1. Haha that’s the exact same thing i think about also! It’s a great resemblance πŸ™‚

  22. Thu Nguyen says:

    I like the system they have up but it’s just not strong enough as you said promoting their stuff. So I’ll cut and paste parts of it to learn the process but promote something else. So it’s good when you got good information on the cheap and $7 isn’t a lot for 7steps. Plus I like you evil idea. You just always know what’s up.

    Thanks for the review.

  23. TasarΔ±m says:

    This is something rather amazing. It looks like a good way to get paid πŸ™‚

  24. Lovely review John! I think i’ll try this one out πŸ™‚

  25. Ary says:

    I don’t like the fact that you need to pay for it, but nowadays you need to pay for almost everything. And also why should you give money to use it, when you can do the same thing on your own?

  26. Certainly you just need an idea to build a good business … this is one of them.

  27. Bidet says:

    This looks like a great site, thanks for sharing it. Too bad its only a trial.

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