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Make Money Online with Success University

written by Michael Kwan on June 7th, 2007

Personal development and web-based education (”webucation”) make up a $64 billion a year industry. You might recognize the names of motivational speakers like Tony Robbins, and these are the exact kind of people who rake in the dough, convincing you to feel better about yourself, teaching you ways to strive toward success (and happiness).

Bachar Settha of Success University ordered a ReviewMe to help promote the programs that this “university” offers. You don’t walk away with a bachelor’s or master’s degree in anything… so, what do you get?

The Universal Language of Wealth Principles

It’s a bit of a misnomer to call this organization “Success University”, because it is not a university in the traditional sense. There are no physical classrooms, no degrees, and no women burning bras. Instead, they offer a “life-enhancing curriculum”, as they call it, that is designed to “raise the level of success in every area of a person’s life.” Because it is largely web-based, the lessons learned aren’t supposed to be specific to any particular geographical region; they’re based in “the universal language of wealth principles.”

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Before I dug any further into the website and what they offered, I listened to a pre-recorded opportunity tele-seminar. They also host these “seminars” live every Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday at 8:00PM CST. What I was expecting was a deeper understanding of what exactly I would learn and what Success University was all about. Instead, what I got was a prolonged sales pitch about how this is “the greatest opportunity on the face of the earth today.”

Is This Trump University?

Not exactly, but I can see that they drew a certain level of inspiration from the guy who likes to fire people. After more digging around, I found that the program would largely include streaming audio and video to teach you those valuable “time tested laws of success.” There are also achievement courses, interactive online environments, and help from professional speakers and trainers. Your “student” package also comes with a lot of supplementary material.

How Does This Make Me Money?

Ay, there’s the rub.

How does this translate to actually making any money? You could just embark into the world and discover what these learnings can do for you, but that takes hard work and it can be mighty difficult to start up a profitable business. Don’t worry, though, because Success University steps right in to help you earn while you learn.

Getting back to that conference call I mentioned earlier, I said that it sounded like one big sales pitch. It reminded me a lot of the Primerica “presentation” that I attended a couple of years back, because 95% of the time was spent talking about how great the program was — including “income and life-changing testimonies” — and only 5% was spent on what you’d actually be doing. And the “doing” is comprised of selling other people on the program.

Is This a Pyramid Scheme?

This information was literally buried deep within the website. I eventually found this at the bottom of the FAQ. When you sign up for Success University, you pay $149.95 up front for your “Premium Product Package.” This includes your first month of tuition as well as “over $800 in Free Bonuses [sic] Courses just for trying us out.” After that, you pay $49.95 each month to remain active.

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Why would you want to stay on, though? Well, that’s the only way that you can make money through their referral program. You get up to $40 for every new student you enroll (Weekly Fast-Start Bonuses). There is also the “Weekly Dual Team Infinity Bonuses” for up to $10,000 a week. Again, this is a reward for “growing your team” and enrolling new students.

Is this is a pyramid or MLM (multi-level marketing) scheme? Let’s just say that it sounds an awful lot like Primerica to me, except it’s based in webucation rather than insurance sales.

The One Time Offer

Forking over $150 up front sounds like a lot of money, but near the end of that almost half-hour sales presentation conference call, Success University came out with a one-time offer. You can get a 14-day trial for two bucks instead of $150. What a deal.

Bachar Settha is one of the people who enrolled in Success University and he’s hoping to grow his “team” through this review. In his ReviewMe request, he specifically requested that we link to details.successuniversity.com rather than directly to successuniversity.com. That’s because “details” is his referral ID. If you go to the main site and click to sign up, you get this page which asks who referred you. Sneaky.

Tyson said on June 7th, 2007 at 11:14 pm

I will have to remember the ‘details’ id in the future very evil :twisted:

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DIY PR Builder said on June 8th, 2007 at 6:59 am

I agree - it’s a very smart idea to pick a user ID like details. Congrats to Bachar!

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InvestorBlogger said on June 8th, 2007 at 8:22 am

Nice idea for real money making venture; oh, to have an ID for google or ebay that was “make-money”!

Mmm.

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Nomar said on June 7th, 2007 at 11:41 pm

Yup, nowadays there are so much online education oportunities… in netherlands the market leader is LOI or NTI ,,nobody beats them here

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Work From Home said on June 8th, 2007 at 1:30 am

I love these things. There are no many useful free sources of information around nowadays, I couldn’t imagine forking over any dough for something that isn’t tried and true.

- Mike

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Tim Spangler said on June 8th, 2007 at 1:55 am

It’s amazing how people keep spending $400 on reviews for these shady get rich quick programs after the kind of honest, hard-hitting reviews that previous ones have gotten.

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InvestorBlogger said on June 8th, 2007 at 8:25 am

Well, I guess that there are a lot suckers who buy these courses, and quite a few suckers who buy unnecessary reviews! But hey! The buck has to be made somewhere! John might as well get it!

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Nomar said on June 8th, 2007 at 2:29 am

That is weird.. I was at top when i commented, is it because of the different time zones?? Isnt this blog at one timezone?? this is strange :roll:

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Tyson said on June 8th, 2007 at 5:25 am

Nomar -

When I commented last night, it did not show up for a while. I think that my comment was waiting for moderation, then after it was approved the timestamp moved it to the top of the list.

John or another person who approve comments will have to confirm.

Tyson

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Ankur said on June 8th, 2007 at 6:17 am

I have observed some delay’s in my posts being displayed, but now its resolved.

Has any one observed that if you dont have a link, the name dosent show up? John, when are you fixing the glitch?

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DIY PR Builder said on June 8th, 2007 at 7:04 am

I found the same thing Noman - for my first comment it took a while to show up but now they go out right away. It’s a smart screening process to make sure the spammers don’t clog up the blog.

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Samay said on June 8th, 2007 at 3:20 am

Well is this online money making program really useful. Please do comment it will help as reviews.
Thanks.
Samay Ahuja

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Ankur said on June 8th, 2007 at 6:08 am

I seriously doubt if it can help you earn unless you are in the few top levels.

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Mohammad said on June 8th, 2007 at 3:41 am

not again?
SevenDaySystem.com seems to be more open, and i’ve tried it, and it has produced results so far for me. about one more sale before I get $1000

and it’s free. (”)

I don’t know about success university. you have to pay for it.

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Ankur said on June 8th, 2007 at 6:11 am

Bloody SHIT! What the hell is your problem. If you get one negative review, why the hell are you spoiling the great community John Chow dot Com has?

Why the hell are you crying over spilt milk?

Please stop praising the seven day Shitstym. We have hadenough of it!

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Rina Sanjay said on June 8th, 2007 at 4:21 am

Success University peaked last year when thousands of internet marketers joined into it. Look at the posts at http://www.warriorforum.com

Judge for yourself.

Rina

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Ankur said on June 8th, 2007 at 6:13 am

It would be great if you could link to the posts, i am searching but dint get it yet.

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Kenneth Dreyer said on June 8th, 2007 at 4:36 am

How about a “throw on the dice” for your reviews? Then we would know right away if it’s a site worth looking closer at, or not..

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shaun said on June 8th, 2007 at 6:40 am

I dont know if I would ever trust my education with some online university lol. I know they are growing bigger and bigger but I still prefer the normal way of going to school.

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DIY PR Builder said on June 8th, 2007 at 7:02 am

John when are you coming out with a Making Money Online university? :evil:

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Mason said on June 10th, 2007 at 6:55 pm

it’s called his blog. :grin:

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green said on June 8th, 2007 at 7:06 am

Meeting people over real way is better. I don’t prefer online university too. But when it comes to budget, and you can’t to go other countries it worth trying.

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website copywriter said on June 8th, 2007 at 9:01 am

These online courses are supposed to make it more convenient for those who don’t have the luxury [of time] to attend actual classes. I agree with your last point there. Moreover, when professionals and full-time working individuals aspire for additional education, online seminars, short-courses, and Internet programs can actually come in handy.

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Wallet Rehab - Ways to save money said on June 8th, 2007 at 7:19 am

Wow, that’s so friggin evil. Disgustingly so. I hate those Primerica creeps.

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Amanda said on June 8th, 2007 at 7:33 am

When you click no one referred you its a broken page.

I dont trust it one bit

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website copywriter said on June 8th, 2007 at 9:04 am

The referral part comes across a little shady. If and when I sign up for something like SuccessUniversity, I expect to learn and practice what I learn. Networking is great and all, but to actually rely on it as a prerequisite to supposed additional education — hmmm, I’m not entirely sure about that.

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Miqu said on June 8th, 2007 at 7:49 am

…..

I’m still thinking :roll:

Are John review will boost this Succes University enrollment ?

John review is nice, but its not a “positive” one for sure :neutral:

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website copywriter said on June 8th, 2007 at 9:26 am

Michael’s keeping it real and I appreciate that. He does mention the 14-day trial period for just $2 — that’s a positive note.

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Michael Kwan said on June 8th, 2007 at 4:31 pm

I don’t set out writing a review with the intention of making it negative or positive. I just write what I think, as honest as possible within the constraints of this blog, and it’s up to the readers to decide for themselves whether it’s worthwhile.

Personally, the $150 up front cost is a little scary and the MLM tendencies of the recruitment structure feel a little shady. Then again, I never enrolled, so I can’t speak to the value of the knowledge and lessons found within.

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Miqu said on June 8th, 2007 at 7:36 pm

Sorry i make mistake before, Michael, i thought its John review :mrgreen:

I also appreciate your review, and agree with you about SE thing. I never interested with SE in the first place. As a reader, it was a helpfull review :wink:

But if i positioned myself as Bachar… :cool:

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Sofcore said on June 8th, 2007 at 7:58 am

I’m stating the obvious here but…

It’s a scam like all the others offering you the “secrets to life, happiness, and success”.

However, the reason these types of scams continue to exist is because enough people “buy into it” that it makes developing the whole thing worthwhile.

You’re much better off doing the work yourself and discovering everything they claim to be able to “teach” you, on your own.

Regards,

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InvestorBlogger said on June 8th, 2007 at 8:20 am

They claim that they will teach you the secrets… PLEEEAZE. If you read the right books, talk to the right people, experiment and think things through, you will learn the secrets!

There is nothing “university” about this program, but plenty of “universal” about it!

Not worth it.

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website copywriter said on June 8th, 2007 at 9:47 am

Ignorance is not always the case here. I guess people still hope they’ll come across something that actually works.

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Michael Kwan said on June 8th, 2007 at 4:32 pm

That’s the thing though. Whether it’s a scam or not isn’t really the issue if you want to make money. It’s just a matter of whether you can convert potential customers students into enrolling… and then you make money.

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Shypy said on June 8th, 2007 at 8:19 am

The 64 Billion $ :!: … I wonder how accurate this stat really is.

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InvestorBlogger said on June 8th, 2007 at 8:28 am

Oddly enough there really is a success university in Taiwan.

National Cheng Gung University in Tainan! And it’s a good school, too!

Cheng Gung, I think, is Chinese for Success!

Cool!

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Stephen Welton said on June 8th, 2007 at 9:46 am

I like the concept. Most of the network marketing and affiliate programs are being built on the model. If it was pyramid then it’s illegal right?

But your right. Hard work, reading and getting in depth study is the right way. The content they are pumping appears to be bogus but most common sense people will know this.

It’s the marketers that will pray on the masses and the model as a get quick rich intention.

If the model really had great content then there would be value to this. There is not.

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Aaron Cook said on June 8th, 2007 at 11:34 pm

“If it was pyramid then it’s illegal right?”

Yes, that’s correct. This one’s not an illegal pyramid though. Here’s what makes a pyramid scam/scheme:

http://www.aaroncook.com/2007/01/what-is-pyramid-scheme.html

As for the opportunity side of it, it’s Network Marketing…and their pay plan utilizes a binary compensation plan structure. Is SU any good? No clue.

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Stephen Welton said on June 8th, 2007 at 11:38 pm

Thanks for posting some resources to let people dig into what is and is not legal.

Not liking it is another story right?

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Aaron Cook said on June 9th, 2007 at 10:02 am

You’re quite welcome Stephen. The more people know about this stuff the less chance there is of them losing their money in a scam. And that’s important to me. :cool:

And yes, not liking it is definitely another story. Just because a particular product or service is “legal” doesn’t mean that it’s actually any good.

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website copywriter said on June 8th, 2007 at 9:51 am

I really hope that, for his sake, Bachar picks up something relevant (actual learnings and even monetary earnings) in this endeavor.

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chrisblogging.com said on June 8th, 2007 at 11:56 am

Its funny to think that even though most of us that read Johnchow would never buy into this, that there are many who will…

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Mason said on June 10th, 2007 at 6:56 pm

yea… that’s a good and a bad thing. :twisted:

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OnlineCashFlow said on June 8th, 2007 at 7:06 pm

I’m definitely a fan of the “details” referral ID… Evil! :evil:

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Blogging with Desi Baba said on June 9th, 2007 at 12:16 am

i think the best way to to learn to be successful to actually be in the field and learn

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website copywriter said on June 9th, 2007 at 11:47 am

Experience is definitely the best teacher. But education, in any shape or form, is potentially a good investment.

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Success University….is this program still on!
I wounder if it is as important as those big buzz around it :???:

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Mason said on June 10th, 2007 at 6:54 pm

sounds like a scam all over it.

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