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New Ad Network – AuctionAds

written by John Chow on March 6, 2007

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Today is the grand opening of Auction Ads (aff). AuctionAds displays live eBay auctions to visitors based on the website owner’s keyword preference and pays out on a CPA (cost per action) basis. The new network is the work of ShoeMoney and MediaWhiz (the owners of Text Link Ads (aff) and ReviewMe(aff)).

Leveraging eBay’s Affiliate Model

In a nutshell, AuctionAds is one big eBay affiliate. eBay does their affiliate payout based on volume – the higher the volume, the higher the revenue share. The exact payouts are shown below.

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Now, the chance of a single small publisher signing up 3,000+ new eBay accounts or doing over $1 million a month in revenue is slim to none and slim left town. Therefore, most eBay affiliates receive the minimum affiliate payout ($12 per sign up and 40% to 50% of revenue).

What AuctionAds does is put all their publishers into one big “collective” to go after the higher revenue share. By ourselves, it’ll be hard to get the top tier payouts because we can’t generate that kind of volume ($1 million a month? Are you kidding me?), However, as part of a collective of AuctionAds publishers, it could be doable. Publishers can leverage AuctionAds’ creative delivery of eBay’s auctions and AuctionAds’ ability to achieve the higher performance incentive tiers with the aggregate volume of traffic to make more money than they could with their own eBay affiliate relationship.

How Does AuctionAds Make Money

AuctionAds will not make any money off their affiliates at the start of this program. Right now, affiliates will get 100% of any money they make from the system. As the collective moves up the eBay revenue share tiers, AuctionAds will start to take a cut of revenues. The goal is for you to make more with AuctionAds than directly with eBay’s affiliate program, which will be the case as the network increases its volume.

In order to build their network as fast as possible, AuctionAds has no minimum entrance requirements – anyone is welcome to join. The bigger the network gets, the more volume it can generate, and the faster it moves up the eBay payout tiers. If the network doesn’t grow, then AuctionAds will never make any money since they’ll be paying out 100% all the time.

The AuctionAds Ads

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The AuctionAds backend features an intuitive, easy to use system for showing targeted eBay auction listings on a publisher’s websites. The system features 11 different size banners with adjustable background, border, heading, description and link colors. You can also add custom campaign to track different parts of your site. To create a banner, just enter some keywords that best match the target of your readership, adjust the colors and hit the Create button. A preview of the banner will be shown.

The ads are triggered by the keywords that you enter. Because it is not contextual, AuctionAds can be used alongside Google AdSense. You just have to makes sure the two ads don’t look the same or you may run afoul of Google’s new “look and feel” rule.

Publishers also have the advantage of a referral system built into the ads. There is no need to sign up separately for the AuctionAds affiliate program because their affiliate program is built right into the ads you display. If a user clicks on the “Ads by AuctionAds” that is displayed with each ad and signs up for the service, you earn a bonus 2% of all revenue generated by that user for 6 months. Not a huge amount, but every little bit helps.

Who Should Use AuctionAds

Because the ads are mostly product related, AuctionAds will work best on shopping or product review sites like The TechZone. However, the service maybe used for non-product sites and blogs. eBay sells enough stuff that you should be able to find something that will match your site.

Because AuctionAds is CPA based, it will require more tweaking than CPC or CPM advertising. A publisher should stick with it for at least a month or two to give it a fair chance. I will be running AuctionAds as a Google default. I want to run them as a main banner but simply don’t have the free ad space right now. I am going to be running them on The TechZone as well.

Sign up for AuctionAds (aff)

*Update – Right after I wrote this article, AuctionAds sent me a ReviewMe (aff) request to review their service. Thanks guys! I was writing about you anyway. Now I get a bonus. :twisted: *Evil strikes again*

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Just an update, since I've been running the auction ads for about 10 days now on a few of my sites. With about a .01% CTR (just over 10k pages served with a little more then 110 clicks) auction ads has generated a little more then $13 for me. Clearly getting good keywords when you are building links is a must and I will be refining my keywords shortly to better reflect this.

The money seems to be there, however it will take some serious tweaking to work well.

My only other real complaint is that I'll loose some of that money in a paypal transaction, but with a low $10 payout, the company would never be able to stay in business issuing checks out like that.

Payout comes at the 1st of the month, along with my gov't cheese :) - so we'll see how that goes next week.

Has anyone figured out what the most profitable search field to use is?

Is anyone making any money from this?

Anyone getting a good return on this yet? We were getting plenty of click throughs but no financial returns. I'm thinking of taking them off so they don't take away from adsense ads that I at least get something for their clicks. But I guess that's how a referral system works, eh?

I have created a new wordpress plugin for AuctionAds. Would anyone be interested in this?

If so, what features would you be expecting?

So TLA sent me an invite to try out auction ads and im going to run it on two of my sites and see how it does... just wanted to report that the interface is SUPER easy to use.

Agreed. They do have a super clean, easy interface.

CPA u mention above means? only those user who buy the product.. then we only we get pay?

That's right. 1000 clicks wont get you anything unless they buy something.

Well, John, I think this thing has a problem. It shows Adult ads when ads for your keywords is not found ! GROSS !!! I mean, that would tarnish the whole reputation of a site. Has anyone observed this ?

Wow, yeah that's not good. I picked broad topics for keywords so I havent had that happen yet. I've got things like "DVD" or "mp3" as mine.

Great review and tip, John. You wrote this up much more clearly and understandably than did Shoemoney, one of the founders.

Now your question of the day, should you choose to comment, is why wouldn't you spend all your time promoting real opportunities like this, from real companies, offering real rates of return on real products as opposed to promoting a "thing" like AGLOCO (notice I'm avoiding the pyramid issue, if you say it's not, it's not), incorporated under the laws of the People's Republic of China (that's the Communist China one for you non-geography majors)and collecting data for who knows what reasons, which can't break any income promises since it offers no income, sells nothing and produces nothing?

I really welcome AuctionAds if fo no other reason than the honest competition will keep the Yahoos and the Googles honest and more attuned to offering publishers better deals.

Well Dave,

AGLOCO is incorporated in Hong Kong, which technically is now a part of China, but still has its own laws and borders (Chinese citizen still need a passport to enter HK). Hong Kong is NOT China. You want to piss off a HK citizen? Tell him he lives in China.

As for the sell nothing and produce nothing, that is exactly what Auction Ad is doing. It's not offering anything new - it's just an eBay affiliate that is trying to get a lot of people to join so they can get a higher rev share. AGLOCO is an ad network trying to get a lot of people to join so it can get a high rev share. They should be able to work their own deal with eBay if they want to.

The only difference between the two is the structure. Auction ad pays 1 level of referring affiliate. Agloco pays 6.

Please tell me you're not a Geography major, like you inferred. :lol:

Yes nice, I don't know why eBay has not done this but I was reading that they were working on something in Beta.

Anyway, I will be trying this out on some of my sites.

I doubt it will work on home page if you dont just have single post on it.Ppl coming to home page will look for some topic not for ads.Moreover if you write about something and then put the add just below it...high chances that ppl will click.

Well it would still work as its all about the keyword and not contextual data (unless you use UTW to get contextual ads).

But yes, strategic placement will definitely help with higher click through rate. Mine is currently less than 1%... not sure if any of those turned into sales though. Awaiting CJ to "pick up the slack"

Yes its weired.Felt like being spammed or something.I am not sure if its going to successful on every blog unless you are reviewing hardware and software .

Its about getting the right keyword. My blog is all about SharePoint (Microsoft's Collaboration software).

Unfortunately, keywords like SharePoint or Office were not always turning family friendly results. However, keyword:Microsoft seems to be working like a charm.

For the time being, I am not testing it on my home page and rather on the single posts page.

Seems like there are initial hiccups with reporting from Commision Junction. Not just that but the email was not reviewed.

The email that I received included the same message over 10x. Copied and pasted right after one another.

Weird

I wonder if they have some sort of Geo Targetting thing, what if users from India see?? Will they be taken to ebay.in, if they click on it?

Well I was getting all $ auctions before from .com

Now I'm getting £ auctions and taken to .co.uk.

I don't know about any other regions but it certainly has geo-targetting for the UK!

This doesn't seem to be quite as good as I first thought.

Say there is a nice ad for a PS3 being displayed and you click it, it doesn't take you to that auction, it just takes you to a page with loads of categories.

What's up with that? Is it like that for everyone else too?

I must be blind. Where are the ads on your site? I white-listed you on my adblock and I can't find them anywhere.

I tried the "auction ads" on my sites. The ads placed were not relevent to my sites. I don't want ads about Britney Spears on my luggage site!! Hopefully they will imporve their service!

Did you put in keywords? :???: That's what your ads should be based on

Keep it to a single keyword and also try to change the size of the ad to a single button like 125x125 or something.

I too just had to sign up. Why not? Doesn't hurt does it? Their not too obtrusive either.

Include that with the two powerhouses behind them, it is indeed worth a try.

I have still yet to find a reason to use their service in place of the affiliation I have with CJ.com and eBay directly. I guess if you live out of the USA and can’t get approved for the CJ affiliate it would make sense, but I don’t want a middle man between me and an affiliate company if I don’t have to have one.

I have setup AuctionAds on my site. Lets see how they perform.

note: There should be a way to remove adult content.

Good point kanwal. Does auctionads have a filter on that?

Unless you put in adult keywords I don't see why adult auctions would appear unless there is a bug.

I'm assuming the keyword filter only searches the textual data. It does not place keywords on the picture.

The only way an adult picture shows up is if the item on sale has that as a picture.

Which is often the case with software and other tech products as its more likely to get more impressions which equals a higher chance in sales.

Jonix

AuctionAds do not have a filter.

So, it means that the publishers are to manually monitor this issue for themselves, since no filters are in the package?

This could be useful for one of my sites. I've just signed up with your referral :smile:

do we need to be part of the ebay affiliate program via cj?

Hi John,

I've written a short tutorial on making AuctionAds contextual using Ultimate Tag Warrior keywords.

Do take a look at it and let me know your feedback.

http://techtites.com/2007/03/07/wordpress-wednesda...

I have already started using it today morning.Seems to be good.I had been using amazon but it didnt work well i am not sure will it work there or not.Lets see

If he is getting 2-3 requests a day for reviews, I think he should raise his $250 price a bit.

He can't, can he? The price is set by ReviewMe themselves.

He can. ReviewMe recently changed their policy allowing bloggers to set their own price point. But the thing is that it's a crowded field. IF he raised his prices by too much, he could easily drive all of this income over to other $250 blogs.

I see, now that I know of it. Yea, he could give it a try, if he wants to.

It's all strategy. John can invest the reviewme money in PPC and bring more traffic. With more traffic he can put the reviews with a higher price. With higher prices (even if he have few reviews) he'll win more money and can invest more in ppc, and bring even more traffic. It's a circle.

An endless cycle you would say. Definitely so, if John wants to work out that way.

Sweet deal. I read about this on another blog yesterday. Snow today closed schools again, what should I do ???? :lol:

Michael

Your review will never be over...
How do you mange to do so much review John