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SEO Hosting – Web Hosting for Search Engine Optimization

written by John Chow on July 17, 2007

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SEO Hosting is a web hosting services specifically engineered and configured for Search Engine Optimization. How do they do this? SEO Hosting offers a revised version of the cPanel / WHM Control panel. This control panel has been modified to allow newly hosted domain names to be created on multiple Class C subnet IP addresses. What does that mean? Luckily, SEO Hosting order this ReviewMe review so I can explain it.

What Is The Class C Subnet

It’s not a great secret that search engines like Google depend on sites linking to each other to determine ranking – the more sites linking to you, the higher you rank in the search results. Knowing this to be the case, a common practice among webmasters with multiple sites is having all the sites link to each other. For example, if you own 20 different sites and have them all link to each other, that’s an instant 20 links per site. Then there are the publishers who buy “reseller hosting” which allows them to put an unlimited number of domain names under the same hosting plan. Imagine how many links you can generate with that deal.

The problem with the above set up is the Class C IP is all the same in most cases. What is the Class C IP and how does it affect search engine ranking?

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The Class C is the first three sets of numbers in an IP address. In the above example you can see that Laptop Gamers, Stephen Fung, The TechZone and Futurelooks are all hosted on the same Class C IP. While The TechZone and Futurelooks doesn’t share its IP address with any other sites, our Class C is the same because we’re hosted by the same ISP.

When Google looks at the linking structure of a site, one of the things it checks is the Class C subnet. If it finds all the sites in the subnet linking to each other with very few links coming from outside the subnet, it could conclude that the sites are trying to artificially inflate their link count and disallow every single link. From an SEO standpoint, it’s best to have multiple sites on its own Class C subnet. This is where SEO Hosting comes in.

Who Is SEO Hosting

SEO Hosting opened for business on June 25th and is a division of the HostGator, a well known web host the provides hosting services for over 400,000 websites and over 600,000 domain names. Host Gator is also leading provider of reseller accounts with over 10,000 resellers. SEO Hosting is their new service targeted at web publishers and business owners who depend on search engine optimization for traffic and revenue.

What SEO Hosting offer is hosting plans with separate Class C IPs.

The Hosting Plans

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Every plan has the same general features. The only major differences will be the amount of C classes (sites you plan to create), disk space, and bandwidth. Since no plan has any set up fees or contracts, upgrading is quick and easy and can be done whenever you run out of space/bandwidth or C classes.

Not only can you host your sites on separate C class IPs, but you can also set up separate C class nameservers. In addition to checking for duplicate Class C IP, some SEO professionals believe Google will check for duplicate nameservers as well.

Ideal For Web Publishers With Multiple Sites

SEO Hosting is ideally set up for web publishers who have, or want to set up, multiple site and link them to each other. With each site having separate Class C IP and nameserver, the chances of Google discounting the links are greatly reduced.

Search engine marketers have always recommended that you should host multiple sites across multiple web hosts to make sure each site has a separate Class C IP. SEO Hosting allows you to host multiple sites with separate Class C IPs and nameservers, all from one control panel. That is certainly a lot easier than hosting ten sites across ten different web hosts. Also, if someone is offering to link you from all his sites/blogs, you should check the Class C IP range for those sites. If they’re all the same, then it maybe the same as getting linked from just one site. With SEO Hosting, you’ll have an easier time doing link exchanges with other sites because all the Class C IPs are different.

Overall, I like what SEO Hosting has to offer and I may use them for a new project. SEO Hosting price seems reasonable enough, plus they’re backed by a huge company and they offer a 30 day money back guarantee. The company offers 24/7 tech support via live chat, email/tickets or 1-866 number. You can expect the same level of support as HostGater since they’re the owners.

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Whatever it is, i still cannot understand well in SEO , i understand it but don;t know how to apply it :sad: still learning, keep learning don;t give up!! :cool:

Hmmmm very good to know. I guess I didnt have all my facts straight

Nice hosting but too expensive...................

This hosting seems nice, but i wonder if it's reliable and if has high uptime.

All a waste of time.

Google is an ICANN accredited Registrar, and as such has free access to the entire WHOIS database for the gTLD's.

So you can spread your site across as many IP blocks as you like but it won't make an ounce of difference, because Google can do a quick look-up (to their locally stored WHOIS database) on each domain, and figure out all the linked names are registered to the same entity, and then it's black flag time, baby.

That was what the Florida update was all about, I believe.

That and checking for shared NS data (as mentioned by John).

FYI, seochat.com has a Class C Checker.

I had no idea that SEO could get THIS complicated. I always thought it was pretty much enough to have good title tags, header tags and keyword density.

Your blog never fails to teach me something new, John!

I dont really see the point. I guess it could help if you have nothing else you could do to improve your seo

No wonder we're running out of IP4 addresses...

Here I would be coming up with one question. Does this apply to blogger blogs as well? If XYZ.blogspot.com is linking to ABC.blogspot.com, and likely to happen on the same "C" address - how google shall be treating linking between these two blogs?

meh, the features don't justify the price unless you're making a lot of extra cash. Maybe if they lower the price

The price is a bit higher than what I pay right now, but it is safe to say that SEO Hosting is definitely onto something. I hope you let us know how they work out for you if you give them some business for your new project!

Really useful info here John. Having sites hosted with large numbers of different hosting companies is a real pain to manage. Different styles, no cPanel etc. All with one co. brings it's own problems though - server crash, spam allegation. Probably worth the risk though. Interesting "negative" comment(s) about Hostgator - I've had no problems.

I had no idea about Class C Subnets and whatnot. I'm gonna have to rethink about how I've got all my sites linking to each other.

No offense but it's an hostgator company, which means sucky, hostgator = theplanet reseller, and it's expensive as hell.

Sorry but i wouldn't recommend it.

Hey! good post. I got some good idea about it. Thanks! :grin:

One thing to remember is that this practice is actually against ARIN's policies (the people that govern IP's) and I am sure they will soon be yanking IP's from people like SEO hosting for misusing them.

Nice idea but my hosting is free so I'm not inclined to switch.

I think the price is okay for what you're getting. Sounds like a pretty good service! Especially for Serial Entrepreneurs! :mrgreen:

John,
Great review! Now i know what is a CLASS C Address.

If Google is so concerned about this, then why wouldn't they just log SEO Hosting's Class C subnets and count all of their subnets as one? That would be evil. :evil: And if they did do that, how would you know??

I guess that the moment Google finds about that (they most probably know about it already)it will trigger changes in the ranking rules and the Google algorithm.

Umm... no one else seems to have said this, so I will be the one to stick out my neck:

I can't see any reasonable business purpose for doing this other than to trick Google. That, in turn, hurts people who can't find things because all the splogs and AdSense arbitrage sites with no content replace the actual websites in the search listings.

How long will it be before Google simply penalizes any business which uses such a service? This seems like quite a high probability.

John, I'm also concerned that you didn't even touch on the ethics question, given that a ReviewMe gives you such editorial freedom. I'm personally ok with you being "evil" as long as you let people know that you are doing so, and that there are associated risks with blackhat techniques (as you've done in the past). Unfortunately, given the comments here, it's clear that not everyone understands both sides of this issue.

-- David Beroff

While there does seem to an element of "blackhat" here, it really depends on the web publishers. There are many publishers with legit multiple sites that do want the linking benefits of linking legit sites to legit sites. Take for example the Weblog Inc network. Over 100 blogs and every single blog links to each other.

The truth of the matter is, this is really too expensive for blackhat use. MFA sites tries to make a dollar or two per month off each sites. They make a lot because of the sheer number of MFA sites. However, a dollar a two won't cover the cost of SEO Hosting.

Fair enough, points taken; thank you, John.

Still, I'm sure you can see the point of at least addressing such ethics issues, even if you are being paid by them. (In fact, I doubt they'd mind a brief follow-up post, :grin: even if all it does is repeat your comment.) Not everyone will automatically come to the same conclusions as you; in fact, even I hadn't done the math to see that this wouldn't work out too well for blackhats.

Great stuff, as always! Best!

Wow, I seriously did not know this. There is one good experience to share.

I happened to talk to one travel agency head who booked almost 20 domains for his travel business which he kept idle and nothing hosted for these domains. We started talking about SEO and I suggested him why not to start running some websites with content on each domain and may be he could use those domains to link to each other to take benefit of the idle time being wasted and being "old" in eyes of google search rankings.

But most likely his all 20 domains must have been booked under same "C" class and cross linkng to all domains will not help him here. I would better suggest him to host the domain names with SEO Hosting under different "C" classes.

Your explanation of class c networks just plain sucks. That being said, what do you think google does with other IP address classes? I would image that they would have some way of detecting class A and B(etc.) addresses. They wouldn't be able to look only at the last octet in those type of addresses.

That hosting is definitely something I would be interested in. Compared to other shared hosting services, it is way over priced. Is the pricing for unlimited domains on X number of IP's??

Hey John,

Sounds great from the SEO standpoint. Didn't know that SE also look at this subnet's.

But it would be also cool to buy a hosting plan with hostgator for a $130 per year and buy static IP. Is it possible? Or maybe is a bigger cost to do it that way.

But all in all nice info.

Hrvoje Livnjak

Generally, ISP charge for each IP you buy and most don't offer static IPs with a share hosting plan. You'll need to go dedicated. And even if you do that, the IPs you get may be from the same subnet. All the IPs we have from NetNation are in the same subnet.

Now, that was a site that made good use fo the $400 reviewme. I wonder how many visitors they'll get as a result? I already knew about the class C but still you broke it down into a level of abstraction I haden't seen before so thanks.

This was very informative. I didn't know about the whole C class thing, but it definitely makes sense.

very nice ... I'll have to give them a look!

Darin

Hi John,

Thanks for the information you give here.

It's a great idea there!

[b]Question to commenters?[/b]

How many of us have 20 or 10 websites to host and get linked together? :neutral:

You'll be amazed at how many there are.

That's right. Almost everyone who is doing SEO might do that :mrgreen:

Count me in the group of people with a bunch of sites!

Cool host, but I think their prices are a bit high... :???:

i don't most of jc's readers will need the services

I think $35 a month is just about reasonable. Another way around the class C problem is to have find friends with reseller accounts. Form a community, create sites on each others hosting (all with different class C's) and the problem is solved .

But the better deal would be to rent a dedicated server with multiple IPs. That's a little more expensive, but you're not depending on any server configs.

Chances are, the IPs the ISP assigns you will be in the same Class C subnet.

Several companies, including Johnchow.com's http://www.BlueFur.com, Steve Pavlina's http://www.pair.com, or my site http://Speedendurance.com using http://www.megahosters.com all charge $150 for a dedicated server.

Yeah, seems expensive to me, too!

I think pricing there looks good considering the benefits of spreading your domains across seperate c-classes.

Ok, you've got a point. But anyway, that's too expensive for me..

...and you're paying for convenience.

I guess I'll be on the free blogger for a long time, everything is so expensive. I guess you gotta pay money to make money.