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Shopping in Shanghai

written by John Chow on May 14, 2008

How one lazy bum made $176,697.50

I decided to hit up a regular supermarket to get an idea on what prices are like for normal everyday stuff. Because 99.9% of everything is made in China, prices are generally less expensive here than back home in Canada. Add in the 7 to 1 exchange rate between the Canadian dollar and the Chinese RMB and the prices start to look ridiculous sometimes.

For example, our taxi ride to the Shanghai zoo cost just $3.50. If this was back in Canada, the same ride would have cost $25 plus tip. There is no tipping in China. And then there was the lunch that cost me $1.28. Find out what you get for that by watching the video below.

One thing for sure, if you can cover your housing cost, you can live like a king here on the average Canadian income. That’s something worth thinking about for people living the dot com lifestyle. Because we can work from anywhere in the world, we can select a place where the cost of living is so low, we can live high on the hog. However, the best method is to make so much money that you can live high on the hog in any country.

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Affiliate Confession May 14, 2008 at 3:48 pm

No tipping in China? Sounds like my kind of country. I can’t stand going to the big city, staying in a hotel and dropping 15 bucks in tips every day.

Affiliate Confession May 14, 2008 at 3:54 pm

Nice pair of shoes for about $14 bucks there. Plus KFC in China, where’s the 11 herbs and spices?

Letscafe Media May 15, 2008 at 5:25 am

OH yeah, I will save up enough money and be a king in China~!

Syed Balkhi May 15, 2008 at 6:48 am

lol I know tipping is kinda crazy here … I would love China

Tyler Ingram May 14, 2008 at 3:55 pm

But is that Mickey Mouse authentic Disney product? lol

Nice lunch for just over at $1 though ;)

John Chow May 14, 2008 at 4:28 pm

That Mickey was the real thing. Even if it was not the real thing, it would have came from the same factory anyway. :)

Thiago Prado May 14, 2008 at 4:52 pm

That is true!!! :evil:

Affiliate Confession May 14, 2008 at 7:12 pm

Doesn’t everything come from just one big factory in China?

Flimjo May 15, 2008 at 5:34 am

I think there are like 3 or 4 big factories. :shock:

DeboHobo May 15, 2008 at 6:51 am

Sally really loves the stuffed fuzzy animals. She is so cute when she gets a hold of one.

That was a very interesting lunch not the usual KFC fare, but the price was just right. :)

Jeremy Waller May 14, 2008 at 4:12 pm

Ha! I love how there are live turtles and frogs next to all of the meat.
Appetizing…er…yea :???:

Shawn Knight May 14, 2008 at 4:15 pm

Do the American food and drinks taste the same? I have heard places like McDonalds in other countries taste totally different…

John Chow May 14, 2008 at 5:20 pm

They taste a big different from the home market. Every company adjusts the taste to suite the local market.

DeboHobo May 15, 2008 at 6:53 am

So were the frogs and turtle for sale as food or pets? I noticed they were in the grocery store next to what looked like produce so I guess I am probably answering my own question. :wink:

Thiago Prado May 14, 2008 at 4:35 pm

You turning your life into a real reality show. Everything you’re doing lately you’re recording and posting in this blog. You should create another website called “John Chow dot com lifestyle”.

Stephen May 14, 2008 at 4:38 pm

Why don’t you register that and try to sell it back to John =)

Thiago Prado May 14, 2008 at 6:06 pm

Because I don’t think is fair to make money like that. Anyway if I register the name he can create another one for his show.

Stephen May 14, 2008 at 4:39 pm

The other advantage of shopping in China is NO TAX and there is always room to negotiate ;)

Ronald Su May 14, 2008 at 4:49 pm

Do people look at you filming weird? Last time I was in Shanghai holding a camera in shops, they look at me like an alien. :arrow:

John Chow May 14, 2008 at 5:02 pm

I didn’t noticed any weird looks. That could be because my Flip is looks like a cell phone so people think I’m texting a message. Or it could be because I just don’t notice these things.

senghooi May 14, 2008 at 5:37 pm

If you come to malaysia and shoot video like this, you will look like an alien as well. :eek:
At malaysia , shooting video in open public place is rare. Maybe its because V-cam is so expensive here. The cheapest one is about USD500. Its about our average 1 month salary.( for University graduate salary )

Noobpreneur May 14, 2008 at 5:30 pm

Lol…

That’s particularly true in most Asian country, except in places that are already established tourist destinations.

Asela May 14, 2008 at 8:38 pm

Here in Sri Lanka most locations carry a warning taking pictures or video in public places since most areas are considered high-security zones what with this damn war going on. But I personally think its absurd but then again who ever listens to me :sad:

You would most probably be shot on sight! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Terra Andersen May 14, 2008 at 5:10 pm

Wow, that’s so cool. I’ve heard that shopping in Shanghai is one of the most eventful tasks. I also wouldn’t mind not tipping, but I’d probably still do it out of habit.

MoneyNing May 14, 2008 at 6:34 pm

Then you need to go to Japan because they would refuse to take tip! :)

senghooi May 14, 2008 at 5:31 pm

Hey , I am wearing the slipper you hold in the video clip !! I buy it with RM10. ( usd 3.3 ). Oh , I’m from malaysia.
IN the video I saw they sell it RMB6 , right? that would be RM3 only. Wow , china product very low price.

dave May 14, 2008 at 5:55 pm

Great video John,
I spent some time in Beijing a few years back and loved every minute of it…
Tasted some unusual food for an Irish pallet (5 weeks & only 1 McDonalds…I’m still proud of myself) & brought home some fantastic bargains that would have cost at least 10 times more here.
Can’t wait to go back…
Enjoy & please let us know when you start charging for your advertising spots in RMB…

bob May 14, 2008 at 6:11 pm

sorry, but I don’t think a low a cost of living is worth moving to a communist country

John Chow May 14, 2008 at 11:26 pm

China is communist in name only. Right now, Shanghai is more capitalist than the US ever was.

Kaizen May 14, 2008 at 6:12 pm

Wow i love updates like these John. It’s really interesting to someone like myself, who has yet to travel to China.

MoneyNing May 14, 2008 at 6:36 pm

You can definitely get by with a lot less money in China but if you REALLY want to live large, you can spend a lot of money too. I think that’s a general statement for living in most of Asia because the gap between poor and the rich is so big.

Terry Tay May 14, 2008 at 7:08 pm

Would you ever consider moving to someplace that the cost of living is cheaper John? or do you like it in Canada?

I probably know the answer to this question but I’ll ask anyways…, are there some restrictions on where you can pull out your camera and start filming?

~Terry

John Chow May 15, 2008 at 3:55 am

I can’t see myself living anywhere else but Vancouver. It really is the best city in the world. So far, no one has question me about videoing anything.

Affiliate Confession May 14, 2008 at 7:14 pm

There must be something that’s expensive in China, housing, cars, there’s got to be something.

Terry Tay May 14, 2008 at 7:36 pm

The cost of the devastating earthquake which struck to the northwest of Sichuan’s provincial capital Chengdu is going to be expensive and is likely to exceed $20 billion. Even worse is that it has killed nearly 15000 people.

John, with the earthquake that happened on Monday, what is the feeling in Shanghai and is there much talk about it?
~Terry

Affiliate Confession May 14, 2008 at 7:47 pm

Yes, I was wondering about that to. Are you going anywhere near the earthquake areas John?

Affiliate Confession May 14, 2008 at 7:32 pm

The reason your blog isn’t blocked in China is because it’s JohnChow.com. If it were JohnEvilInternetMarketerSmith.com it would be blocked.

Terry Tay May 14, 2008 at 7:41 pm

As long as he posts nice topics and videos about China he should be ok right :wink:
~Terry

Cronus May 14, 2008 at 7:47 pm

Strange that feedburner is blocked in China. I would imagine it is because feedburner had some feeds related to some things that China didn’t like at one point, so they just blocked it altogether.

Financial Jesus May 15, 2008 at 5:13 am

Yeah, It’s very strange…
I guess we have to find a different way to get our Chinese readers check back to our blogs :grin:

Flimjo May 15, 2008 at 5:52 am

It’s too bad that information is restricted like that over there. Information holds so much potential, and when people aren’t allowed to access and analyze it, it inhibits growth.

joshuaun May 14, 2008 at 8:08 pm

shopping??????for me just can only windows shopping only………………ai…………. :oops: :oops: :oops:

Berry May 14, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Why not you consider to visit Bali,Indonesia, everything is cheap if you know the place and how to deal with it,even in Jakarta with US$1.50 you will have lunch dish plus ice tea in restaurant with aircond and musics,but if you go to Mc Donald,Burger King or Starbuck it will the same as other western countries.

Bom May 14, 2008 at 9:29 pm

come to Thailand and you will find the same thing in price but better quality and lifestyle :-)

Kelvin Nikkel May 14, 2008 at 10:09 pm

I loved this post John. Made me miss living in China. I was there for a year in GuangZhou and Shanghai looked similar from the view in your video. One thing I REALLY loved when I was there WERE the prices of everything and bartering for everything. I can’t wait to get back there.

Also spent 2 years in Northern Thailand and the prices there were even LESS! Going back soon.

John Fan May 14, 2008 at 10:34 pm

(sorry John, but a typo here “Chinise”. in a rush? :wink: )
good read, enjoy your trip …

Mike May 14, 2008 at 11:06 pm

Prices are cheap but quality can be bad. If you live in China long enough you will eventually get a bout of food poisoning.

Mike Huang May 14, 2008 at 11:59 pm

You’re absolutely right John, if you live anywhere in Asian, you’re basically king even if you make about $8/hour here in the states. I wonder if that lady that was sitting next to you is saying “WTF is he doing” :P

-Mike

Flimjo May 15, 2008 at 5:46 am

Tim Ferriss would love that scenario. Work for $8/hour in the states. Negotiate a work-from-home arrangement. Take your laptop and go overseas and live like a rich king in Asia.

Affiliate Confession May 15, 2008 at 8:28 pm

That sounds like a great idea, of course the airfare is a bit expensive to get there.

Go2Wellington May 15, 2008 at 1:09 am

John, I have been in Shanghai in about 4 years ago! I like to shop there especially the “NanJing” road…damn long!

Clickusername May 15, 2008 at 1:42 am

Watching that video brought back memories of my previous trips to Shanghai. I remember walking down the Bund in t-shirt and shorts and people looking at me oddly as all the locals were wearing long pants and covered up. It was also a dead giveaway – they knew I was a tourist.
I remember going to a Malone’s in Shanghai and also Tony Roma’s and a pub called Shanghai Sally’s. Later, we saw the neon signs at night while taking a boat ride on the river. Wow, actually a lot of great memories.

woohome May 15, 2008 at 3:15 am

Indeed, no tipping in China, and there are many delicious foods. Travel to China is a good idea. Go to GreatWall!

Flimjo May 15, 2008 at 5:37 am

Using geo-arbitrage to maximize the purchasing power of your dollars is what a lot of rich people do. For example, going to Buenos Aires and living like a king, eating steak dinners every night, staying in 5-star hotels costs less than it would cost living in a small Midwestern town in the U.S.

Affiliate17 May 15, 2008 at 6:13 am

I guess everywhere you go in Asia you find cheaper things. Its pretty good stuff for lower prices.

Hostgator Coupons May 15, 2008 at 6:49 am

I totally agree with you. Working over the net and living in a non-expensive country like Shanghai or any other place will be more interesting and less stress (if you are starting working online and not having a continues grow)

make150aday May 15, 2008 at 3:16 pm

Shanghai is not a country. I am sure you meant to say China.
Shanghai can be stressful if you live there.
Its growing very fast. Its a huge city.

Syed Balkhi May 15, 2008 at 6:51 am

The currency values so much .. You should buy all the cool gadgets that you find for cheap there..

avgjoe May 15, 2008 at 7:29 am

I do believe this is the first time I’ve ever observed the subtleties of another culture like this. I feel so shelter here in the U.S.

John: I’m a long time reader yet I never felt the urge to comment until now. I can understand if you don’t want every post about your visit to china, but if you could keep the video coming (maybe on your youtube channel) it would be much appreciated.

make150aday May 15, 2008 at 7:45 am

John –don’t forget your roots..Don’t look down on where you came from…

From the video post that you made–I had the impression that you are looking down on China…

And you are only in city area–I m not sure how you would react when you go to inner area/rural areas.

So John I guess there is no concern about recent earthquake –at least where you are….

Have fun but don’t make fun.

brady ware May 15, 2008 at 9:49 pm

If you have been having trouble viewing John’s videos like I have try disabling Google web accelerator. I have been unable to view numerous videos lately and disabled the accelerator and presto. Ah I can finally see the weekly pho episode.