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The PageRank Ripple – PageRank is Dead!

written by John Chow on October 27, 2007

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This post was guest blogged by Jamie Harrop, a Web Entrepreneur and expert in a variety of Web authoring areas. He writes, records video blogs and conducts text and video interviews with other entrepreneurs.

Do you ever wonder what the Google War Room, the G’Plex that is, is like on a week like this? We all know Google has the ability, the means, and hell, some would even argue the desire, to cause complete chaos throughout the Internet. We ol’ bloggers don’t help much, in that we spread the word of Google’s Games at super-sonic speeds. With that said, I often wonder in a week like this whether G’Gals and G’Guys, the Google employees that is, are laughing at us or screaming at us for uncovering all their mistakes.

You see, Google have always been uptight when it comes to their algorithms, and when the word PageRank is mentioned they tend to lock down fast and do so in a swift motion to rival that of NORAD! So when the G’Plex outputs another wave of PageRank Poop, us poor bloggers have to sit here at our lonely desks with our G-Mug, G-MouseMat, G-Tshirt and G-Lava-Lamp, wondering what the hell just happened.

Well, I’m Going To Tell You What Happened

What happened this week, my fellow blogosphere blog-o-teers, was a mess. A mess in which PageRank, once affectionately know as “BackRub“, by the way, shone its true light. A light that shone so dim it almost appeared as if it was caught in the 90′s.

Well you know what? PageRank is caught in the 90′s, and that’s why I’m going to go out on a limb and claim PageRank… stuff it… BackRub, to be dead. Dead as a Dodo. Dead as an Alexa rating. Dead!

You see, last week we saw the usual quarterly update of Google’s public display of PageRank. But what we also saw was a huge wave of yellow cards for blogs. Ten minutes in the bin. A warning with a red card next. However you want to put it, a number of blogs were penalised with a drop in PageRank, apparently because they were… apparently, selling text links.

Two Problems With This

1. Google gave a yellow card to the wrong people. Last time that happened, the referee was suspended. Google penalised the likes of ProBlogger, who were not selling text links. This must have been a huge embarrassment for Google, let alone ProBlogger. Thankfully, after much uproar from the Blog-o-teers of the Blogosphere, Google realised their mistake and handed ProBlogger his correct PageRank.

2. I got penalised. So that’s not the real problem, because I didn’t get penalised. Actually, I don’t sell text links and so Google left me well alone, or so I thought. But you see, many Web sites linking to my blog were penalised (right or wrong, who knows). The effect that had on me, an innocent party in all this mess, was a drop in my PageRank. If Web sites linking to me don’t have a PageRank as high as they once did, that is going to reduce my rank. Not good, Google. You just hurt an innocent by-stander.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it was wrong for Google to penalise those blogs who sell text links, nor am I saying it was right. What I am saying is that PageRank, BackRub, KissCheek, whatever, is not fit for today’s culture of Internet, where most sites are out there to gain a financial reward, as opposed to supplying information, and information only, as was the case in the 90′s. The fact is, PageRank is becoming unstable, to a point where innocent parties are losing rank, in return losing visitors, in return losing income, in return making me freaking homeless! (Ok, so that was extreme, but you get the idea).

I’m sorry Google, but until you stop letting mindless humans mess with an incredibly complex mathematical formula that was developed at Stanford to work by itself with no human interaction, I’m not going to be putting an ounce of trust in any PageRank valuation. You’ve royally screwed a lot of innocent people this weekend by use of a formula not built for the 21st century, and I’m not going to forgive easily.

My solution? Rid the ripple. You pour a truck load of concrete in to the pond that is causing this PageRank ripple and start over with a ranking algorithm that is purposely built for the 21st century Internet! Hell, first start with an algorithm built for the Internet. Then work your way up to the 21st century Internet. Right now, PageRank is working at one thing, and one thing only… it’s working its way to biting you in the ass!

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Well, actually the things that Google does will get only better and better and the selling links penalty is just the tip of the iceberg. You don't have to do that to be penalized or your PR lowered. You just have to overload your website with poor content or building links from some scrapp software - and that will do. What really matters here is the authority of your site and the quality of your backlinks. And Google is getting better at both.

Sorry, I accidentally pressed my keyboard. Just ignore the mess I have written.

i am on your side.totally agree with you.

Well interesting point you have here. I also don't know how PageRank works, but my blog got PageRank 2, I am very happy with that and all I can say John Chow welcome to my world ;-)

I wasn't going to comment because this post is so old, but...

Those who would correct someone else's grammar should themselves be error free.

page rank is their standard. Unless of coz if yahoo comes up an equivalent of something like tat!

I wish Google would stop publicly disclosing the PageRank of sites altogether. My blog's return of investment should be based on my traffic and readership, not some stupid green bar. :roll: :razz:

Ranking of a site needs to be determined by internet users not by other site. Of course, that will have it's own issues, but at least it's a step in the right direction.

This blog is just full of idiots and John-Chow dick riders. It's quite pathetic.

Great work and also we expect such a presentation from and expert. Thank you.

I think wallstreetfighter has a point here! First we have to understand how this new ranking system works, the reasons for Google to give it the green light an so on, before we jump to major conclusions.

I wonder why this sudden changes happening into PR??? If it changes this lot, what is its relevance??

Yeah. I went from PR0 to PR3 too. :) My company site on the other hand went from PR1 to PR2.

I don't know about dead... But it sure did make a heart or two pause for a moment!

Has this whole google page rank issue affected only blogs or even normal websites which are selling text links ??

My GettyCash blog went up from PR0 to PR3 and another blog went down from PR3 to PR1. :???:

I feel so much better knowing that there are others that are much worse grammatically than me. That was a tough read. If Google gave you a PR 10 you would all be singing its praises. This "We don't need Google" BS is almost comical. And yes John does edit post. I have had mine edited twice. The line "John, you should try thanking your readers every once in a while instead of showing them how much money you make off them"

John, my blog PR went down as well and I guess we are at par now in terms of PR not in terms of content :)

http://reviewszone.blogspot.com

Luckily you can live on your RSS visitors :mrgreen:

Funny how a level drop in PR and PR followers start to claim stuff like PR being dead or useless and whatever rants.

How about putting the blame on the 101 other sites that contributed to the PR? :)

I dont think you guys are really 'getting' the update.

Google doesnt have to care what bloggers feel - they care about accurate search. If you have a load of links on your website that have absolutely no purpose bar promoting someone elses website - then the links dont hold value to your topic and hence lend it more credibility/validity.

I understand that you have to make money and hence sell links, ads etc - but you should make the links/ads similar to your topic.

Using PageRank to guage how much you should charge to advertise on your site is not what it is for - whether it is used that way or not.

As long as advertisers continue to place importance on pagerank, it will not be dead. And until there is another accurate way to measure a website's success, then advertisers will continue to look at pagerank and Alexa rank, regardless of how flawed they are.

Ok, I'm was an avid reader of this blog..that is a year ago. The only thing John Chow, and his 'Mafia' do is complain if you don't get your way. You know what? The world is tough and so is the internet. You also know what? The most successful people in this world adapt to change. Obviously most of you 'probloggers' or 'wannabe probloggers' are getting too butt hurt over this last page rank. The amount of time you losers spend complaining could be used to research on how you could improve your PR by next update.

"Right now, PageRank is working at one thing, and one thing only… it’s working its way to biting you in the ass!"

It's only biting you in the ass if you want to look at it that way. Keep complaining and the winner is Google. Fight it and figure out a way to beat the algorithm, then you become the winner. The ones that stay on top are the ones that adapt the quickest.

Yup, I am beginning to really doubt the good old PageRank that used to work for everyone. Now, it's just a big messy algorithm noone wants to use. I am turning to Yahoo unless Google quickly fixes it.

Well, the Google Toolbar pagerank might be dead, and I agree with that, I got pagerank 4 for my 2 months old blog, and traffic has not changed whatsoever, but it I noticed during these two months that as my blog was getting more quality links from other sites my posts were ranking better on google SERPS. to say that pagerank is dead, is not a true statement, saying the toolbar pagerank is dead is better, I never read anywhere google used the toolbar pagerank to grade site's importance, they probably just do that to muse webmasters, but the true pagerank algo which is to have quality links pointing to your site is still at google's search core. lucky for SEO Pros they still got business to do :twisted:

Google, though powerful and becoming an evil internet monopoly, tries to assert itself as the big bad wolf who comes to blow the little blogs house down, but Google doesn't know that wolf doesn't always win.

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Not to mention the fact that most old sites don't use adsense anymore but the new websites will most likely go with adsense because they don't know where to look for advertisers. Overall it helps Google's revenue.

This is nothing about penalizing link selling. It is a complete change of algorithm where old sites don't get the premium PR over new sites. It is absolutely unfair to the new site in all those days before this update. Think of it as the richs get richer and the poors get poorer as before and now it is a free for all game.

So what does this mean? All the new websites with high quality content get a crack at kicking all those old and lazy (jk) sites off the rank.

Why this work? All the old sites have high ranking and they are most likely be the sites that are selling text links so a complete dump of the old sites premium algorithm would solve a lot of link selling problems and not to mention the FUD.

i got a page rank rise for some of my sites! :razz: so am happy!
but then i do agree that page rank is no more a value of quality, as new sites have nice pr and the old and established sites are not having enough PR!

Google is losing a lot of goodwill over all that it is doing trying to police the Internet and dictating what people can and cannot do. :neutral:

I guess it is does that worship Google that made them so notorious.

Google PageRank is not dead and it won't be dead soon. PR will die when people stop talking about it. But at the moment it is still useful tool.

Yes, yes Google Pagerank is extremely useful, isn't it?
As useful as Altavista today.

Mine went from 5 to 2, I'm a little miffed, I work hard!

WellGuyz, dont know about you, but my blog actually went from PR 5 to 6. I am not really a pro in this whole PR issue so can't really express my thoughts on it.

Great blog, Aibek, it's very professional looking and the ads aren't intrusive. UBD outdone themselves on the look of that one :)

Thanks a lot, UBD did a great job. We spent almost a month on changing things. But at the end I got exactly what i had in mind. :smile:

An over obsession of PageRank has made google "FEEL" this invincible! And now as people do stop giving it credit, i'm sure Google will have to cough up a new algorithm! period.

Why is selling links such a bad thing in the first place? How is it different then selling a banner or other adspot? I don't think I want Google telling me how to run my blog. Pagerank or no pagerank.

Google doesn't have a problem with selling links... as long as you use the don't follow tag so that SE ranking is not passed on. The fact is, most link buyers were doing it to increase search engine ranking - and that is what Google wants to penalize.

But the ads and banners don't use the don't follow tags. They are basically just a picture link. I don't get why Google finds one type of linkage acceptable and the other is not.

I think Google is beginning to get too big and controlling for its own motto of "do no evil" to be anything more than a joke. They quite literally control the flow of information on the Internet and are only getting stronger by the day.

But unfortunately this PR update is not only affecting blogs that Google wanted to punish (those selling TLA's) but it has also punished blogs that don't sell links by devaluing any incoming links they have from blogs that do sell links. I think this is what happened at ProBlogger.

I think Google bit off more than they can chew this time. Policing the Internet for paid links will prove to be a very time consuming and expensive process.

Have you noticed the ones claiming PageRank is dead are the same webmasters who were recently downgraded by the PageRank update? lol :cool:

I also have been noticing this trend. :lol:

and they'll probably promote PR again once they got their level back.

Pagerank is crap !!
Its true that in this PR update many innocent webmasters have been pissed !!

Google is earning billions so now Larry and Bin don't worry about small innocent webmasters who earn their living from their website..
They forgot that once they were also small .

Have u ever thought that if all webmasters restrict googlebot to spider their site then google's database will be 0.

If we are earning due to google then google is also earning due to webmasters only.

Everything that rises do have to fall and one day same will happen with Google.

Links from penalized sites should have less weight than before. If links from other sites are based (from Google point of view) on PR then obviously it effect the linked sites as well... but this is correct!

Exactly.

If your page rank was based on sites linking to you because you paid them then its only right your page rnak goes down. get decent sites to link to you and it will go back up.

"innocent bystander"

Umm no you weren't, you paid people to link to you, that is what google has clamped down on...correctly IMO.

This post is too emotional and has a bad taste of bitterness thorughout and tries to speak on the behalf of every blogger. Problem is, we dont all agree with you.