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Want More Cash? It Will Cost You $500

written by John Chow on August 31, 2007

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John Chow dot Com reader, Shannon Bishop, sent me a ReviewMe request to review MoreCashClub.com, an Internet club that helps its members make more cash. How does it do that? I’m going to tell you.

What Is MoreCashClub.com?

In a nutshell, MoreCashClub.com is an Internet club. Members pay $500 to join. What do you get for $500? A whole heap of e-products and $400 for every new member you refer to the club.

All members are given an affiliate ID that they use to send traffic to MoreCashClub.com. If someone signs up for the $500 membership, $400 is paid instantly to the affiliate who signed them up. That 80% affiliate payout has to be the highest in the industry. Then again, I think the high payout is needed because there are a bunch of things wrong with the system.

No Highlighting of The Products

When I first saw the MoreCashClub.com home page I was thinking, “OK. Another Seven Day System slamming.” However, Shannon gave me a login to the Member’s Area so I was able to check out all the 300+ e-products.

The products aren’t half bad. The sheer quantity of them can be overwhelming. The full download is 227MB. The files contain software programs, eBooks and pre-made, ready to use, Get Rich Quick websites. I had a great time looking through them and I actually may use some of those ready made sites for a case study call, “Can you get rich quick with Get Rich Quick sites?” The ready made sites are really ready made. All you need to do is upload it, set up a PPC campaign to send the site traffic and watch the money roll in. At least, that’s what you hope for.

While it’s questionable whether the products are worth $500, I do believe members are getting some value. This is especially true for Internet marketing newbies because there are a lot files with eBooks for beginners. So far, I haven’t found anything new or revolutionary but I’ve only gone through a third of the files.

MoreCashClub.com place almost no emphasis on the products other than a very poorly done products page. Everything is based around trying to get people to join the club and earn $400 per referral. However, I can’t see many conversions with the current site.

Really Bad Sales Copy

MoreCashClub.com needs to hire a copywriter desperately. The main page has so many spelling, grammar and punctuation errors that you can’t even keep count. Formatting is horrible. There are quotes that are not attributed to anyone. The site uses a magnitude of different fonts, with some that are impossible to read. That might be a good thing because you may end up with a headache after reading a paragraph like this one.

I believe YOU CAN have this kind of lifestyle, while earning $3,000 to $5,000 a week or more, working only an hour or two each day, with Your Very Own Home Based Business? Making money online has never been easier!

The above wouldn’t be excusable even if English is not your first language. The amazing thing is, in the MoreCashClub.com about page, it states that Shannon Bishop is an author!

TOS Violations Galore

MoreCashClub.com features third party advertising at the bottom of the page. That in itself would make members not promote the site because they don’t make money from the ads, Shannon does. Either Shannon hasn’t read the Google AdSense TOS or she just doesn’t care. Some pages have seven Google ads. In addition, Shannon has this little notice near the checkout box:

We are the best at what we do. If you don’t believe us, check out some of our competitors in the sponsored links, at the bottom of this page!

Gee, I wonder if that violates the, “May not encourage users to click the Google ads” rule?

Conflicting Messages and Credibility Problems

If you just follow our proven system, it will be impossible for you to fail!

This Package does not come with a refund policy.

MoreCashClub.com features an image near the checkout box that says the site uses 128bit SSL. However, the only form of payment it accepts is PayPal. Why do you need SSL when you don’t handle the sales transaction? I have a prize for anyone who can find MoreCashClub.com’s SSL certificate.

The site features a Microsoft.net icon but it’s hosted on a Linux server. There are also icons from the American Marketing Association, SEMPO and SMA-NA. I really wonder if MoreCashClub.com belongs to any of them. The Meet The team page had this little gem:

In 2006, Morecashclub, Inc. did nearly 1 million in sales and 75% was paid to the members in her program.

A check of the Whois shows the site didn’t go live until March 2007.

Even if the sales copy had perfect English, these conflicting images really makes one question the professionalism of the site. The funny thing is, Shannon Bishop probably thinks the SLL, Microsoft.net and other icons adds to the credibility.

Should You Join The Club?

If MoreCashClub.com wishes to get more members, they’re going to have to completely redo the sales page, correct all the conflicting messages and remove the third party advertising that only makes money for Shannon Bishop. As it stands right now, I don’t see many people joining.

In a way, that’s kinda sad because the e-products really aren’t half bad. Mind you, you could probably find them all on the Net for free but by the time you find the last one, you may wish you had just paid the $500.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a Get Rich Quick site to make. :twisted:

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wow reading the replies and comments on this review was actually more interesting than the review itself.

The time / money spent on the header should've gone towards spell / grammar check. :oops:

"You claim you’re making $600k a year..."

Claim being the important word. There are so many spam sites saying they're making millions - if that's the case, why are you selling your ebook for $39.95 when you could keep it to yourself and have no competition? They must think we're muppets :D

You claim you're making $600k a year from that site and actually thought you needed a mogul's opinon? LMFAO

john hasn't done anything wrong, he just gave his honest opion that's all. Some people call that a review.

Nice review... make me not wanna get a review me from you lol!!!

Save your $400 for the iphone. It would be a better investment for you.

:mrgreen:
Haha I loved this review and better yet the replies.

What do they say: A fool and his money are soon parted
$400 bucks to be exact!

It was a "REVIEW" hence review is the first word in the url.
John did exactly that and gave a review. He could've said a lot worse about the site from the looks of things as well.

lol Did you read any of the comments up there? Who said John can't do with it as he pleases? Of course he can. Just go back and read the past posts bud.

Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank.

I've heard Matt Cutts clearly state that both buying and selling is against their guidelines. I don't agree with it myself. My point is don't be a hypocrite by calling someone else out on something that you do very similar.

Chances are neither the buyer nor the seller will be penalized, but there has been many cases where the backlinks were removed and not looked at by Google.

And is this or any of the other billion websites out their owned by Matt or google, no, its our property and we can do with it as we please, wants google going to do ban everyone?

You need to know the difference between a guideline and a TOS.

hmmm I guess I will check it out sounds good

John, it shouldn't be about what you can or cannot do. I've spent too much time on your site writing these replies so this will be the last one. Take it as you will. What you did was wrong. You need to be teaching your readers how to make money online, not brag to them about how much you made and not by ripping your own readers off.

It's not in the TOS, it's in the Webmaster Guidelines:

Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank.

I would imagine that you know most likely you won't be penalized for selling links, nor will the customer who pays you. But, I'm sure you also know Google removes backlinks from sites that purchases links and it's increasing very much lately. In other words, these people are paying you for a link that may or may not help them at all!!

If Matt Cutts personally knows of your site, you can bet they're looking into it.

Matt Cutts does personally know this site. That's how big I am. :twisted:

Johns head is huge. This is a great place to waste time though, I'll give him that.

Haha! You're spot on with that one.

With earnings at the level they are at though I doubt John actually cares about what anyone else thinks of him - as long as he's making money he's happy.

A link from jc.com may not help you get a better serp but it does help you with traffic, get a link in the top commentors and youll see. Also google has already "banned" johnchow from the rankings so what more could they do

And i wonder why my comment was not published in your blog on regard of this review. Truth hurts?

Some people should really THINK before they act, you order a damn review to get a review, it is into YOUR power if the review will be positive or negative. There are two ways to get a review, one is to get a review and fix the bugs and get more opinions what people like and what they don't and the second one (as it is used here, but in the wrong way) is to get publicity...well she got publicity for sure, but a negative one and its not John's fault about that.

That's exactly the point. The site has issues and obviously the review would hurt them, so why accept $400 for a review that you knew good and well would hurt their reputation? Just seems extremely unethical to me! Why not decline the review with the comment that they have issues that need to be resolved before you do a review.

My point was, if the site WAS a scam, there would be nothing at all wrong with burying them. Since it's not a scam you're just burying someone strictly for financial gain!

By the way, you talk about how they're violating Google Adsense TOS. At the same time you're violating their Webmaster TOS by selling paid links that alter SE rankings! Hypocritical?

Advertisers order reviews not just to get buzz to their site, but they also to see where they can improve. There is no rule that say I have to give a positive or negative review. This is NOT PayPerPost where advertisers can demand positive only reviews. Customers get exactly what they pay for when they do a reviewme with me - an honest review.

You should read the Webmaster TOS again. Selling links is not a violation.

for all the doubters...
John was paid to do a review.
When you ask for a review, surely the good and bad should turn up...
Johns review was honest in what he saw and that is what the reviewer was asking for (or should have kown what they would get).
It is now up to the person asking for the review to take Johns critisims onboard (and everyone else who has posted a negative comment about this review) and decide if they want to work on these critisims or not, that is why they paid for the review in the first place...
While I seem to agree with most posting here, ie. the site in question is just another stupid money making scam that I would never personally sign up to, they now have a fantastic view by lots of people who want to make money online, so while they paid $400 for a review that turned out bad, it was well worth it.
so sign up at your pleasure...
but if you really want the best online money making schemes, please feel free to PM me with your bank accont details and I would be glad to do the dog...and then teach you how it would never happen agin...
long live the internet...

For reference the guidelines are here: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answe...

Really the only way I think paid-links could be against the guidelines is if you buy them: "Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank"

But even that is very iffy.

This would mean that the payed links on this blog are not in violation of the TOS. People bought the links to increase their traffic, not to increase ranking.

Yeah he didn't exactly call them a scam. They asked him to review their site, they could have seen from past reviews that he will call them on every little thing he notices. Plus, it seems a little weird that he would have to 'decline' because their site has problems. Every website has problems, this one happens to have a lot thats all. Should he give them a "free" review to fix up their website and get it in working order?

You're flawed.

They paid for a review (mistake) and they got nothing but honesty.

I hate to sound Bart Simpsonish - but the site sucks. Plain and simple.

What a bullshit site. I love how these idiots think the can make money online without ANY marketing, business or copywriting training. I hope this site fails and is a lesson to all of the other morons who think you can get rich quick online. Shannon, you are a moron and your reputation is tarnished. What type of idiot would get a ReviewMe on a stupid site like this? You can't even write proper English!

I would stoop down to your level and call you names but I have class. You don't even matter to anybody. You don't even have a picture....lololol

I love it when the bitterness starts - the comments on this site are just as entertaining as the content.

John, I have no affiliation with that site and have no idea who owns it but that review was unethical. It obviously has problems, but it's also obvious that it's not a scam.

If you didn't like it, you should have denied the offer. Now someone paid you $400 to hurt them. If it was a scam then it would be understandable. Scams SHOULD be brought forward and if you can scam them right back by taking $400 then good for you.

This one wasn't a scam though. Simply a site that needs a lot of work. If you ask me your the scam!

Why not focus your efforts on mentoring your readers rather than robbing them???

Pretty pathetic!!

Tell me exactly where in my review did I call MoreCashClub.com a scam. Hopefully, MoreCashClub.com will take what I wrote and use it to improve their site.

Thanks john for the review. I have to admit you are a pretty blunt guy. Good lesson learned for me. To be truthful to all your readers, it is not a scam. I do agree the price is a bit high but you get 300 for $.6 each. That is why I didn’t think it was high. I have been scammed as a marketer in the past and I design this program with my team to make sure other doesn’t get scammed. That is why I spend time training my members and leading them from the front not the rare.

I really don’t have time to scam people. I am an Active United States Soldier. I don’t have time to make more enemies I have enough in IRAQ. I truly appreciate all the comments from all of your readers. I have a blast this weekend. There is always room for improvement.

I salute you all.

Hmmmm. Let's see. you make $400 signing someone to a $500 club. Does not leave room for too much quality in the product. From the way the Google TOS are followed, I doubt the integrity of the product. I would be concerned about copyright and other issues using any of the sites - that is if they are any different from the ones you can get free already.
Dangerously close to a pyramid. Far worse than many MLM's.
Of course, I am just going by the review.

What a SUPER SCAM :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I would think maybe selling it for $50, and reselling for $40 would be better, as you could sell more, and the products would be worth $50, but maybe not $500.

"...If you don’t believe us, check out some of our competitors in the sponsored links, at the bottom of this page!"

lol. Some people must just assume they won't ever get caught. Did anyone report her to Google after seeing this review?

Looks like 3/4 of a scam... :P

I smell a bit of a rat. So, I've done a blog post on the truth about this review.

It looks like some MLM. Actulay the high price makes impression that you realy get some value.

check out passport to wealth if you think Im high..

So many strange websites get reviews from J.Chow... seems they would have at least read his past reviews and know that he will just lay it all out there. Maybe if their program really works they will actually take his advice here.

Truth is I’m making $25,000 every two weeks. I can give a wack what John thinks about my site.

If ya didn't give a whoot, than why did you signup for a review? If you are already making more money than J.Chow than why do you need his help? Seems a little 2 faced. Plus common now, he is sooooooooooooooooooo right about a lot of things. I never ever trust people who tell me they make $25k every 2 weeks, especially when they are commenting on some blog. They would be busy doing something else like being on a sail boat off to some fancy island.

I think it is great that the site got a fair review. The ReviewMe concept only works if the reviewer is honest. Many people see the system as "pay $400 and get a glorious review". But John was spot on pointing out the positive and the negative. You gotta have guts to get your site reviewed by John!

Sounds great, where do I sign up? ;-)

For some reason I liked your reply

I commend you for responding Shannon - very brave of you, but you may need to get your facts straight as well if you wanted to mount a worthy retort.
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- Raymond (MONEY BLUE BOOK)

Well, what a review. Out of 100% of this information 1% was right. He got the domain right. Truth is John is a great blog mogul who spends most of his time bashing other companies who have created wealth for thousands of people. Yeah, it may seem like a scam to you because I’m not writing 10,000 threads for a blog for a living. When has john ever give a great review? I didn’t ask john to review my site because I thought he would say something good. I asked him to review my site to get a “moguls” opinion. Truth is I’m making $25,000 every two weeks. I can give a wack what John thinks about my site. Just for kicks and giglges, here is some incorrect information john mention about my site.

Here is the negative information:

Seven Day System: Has been in business since March. How could it be a seven day system?

Copy writes: No miss spelled words on any page.

Google AdSense TOS. Never violated Google’s TOS

Microsoft.net:

A check of the Whois shows the site didn’t go live until March 2007.: Put on your glass john and read the site again

Linux server: Where did you see this?

Here is the positive information John Chow omitted.

1. Great movie presentation
2. Great affiliate commission
3. Company is making $25,000 every two weeks.
4. 10,000 worth of great software and ebooks about marketing.

Best wishes,
John I wish you the best.

Ok Shannon, I was following you there for a moment until you bleeped out "Google AdSense TOS. Never violated Google’s TOS," upon which I immediately fell off my chair in disbelief.

Do you realized how many Google AdSense Ads you placed on your site? You have 26 ! GM Chrysler...please explain to me how that's not a blatant violation??
:shock: :shock: :shock:
- Raymond (MONEY BLUE BOOK)